loumf
Joined 19 years ago
Joined 19 years ago
The main argument against them being good evidence is if they are not accurate and the public (i.e. the jury) knows that.
Am I liable if my watch starts doing this? Or is Apple if it does this by default without even my consent?
I have no idea if the law cares about the privacy features Apple mentioned (no accessible audio, no speaker ID) if the audio was clearly captured at some point.
The one that was shown to work[1] was a niche answer to a specific question that programmers might ask. That site was controllable by the attackers in a way that wikipedia is not. Being a niche answer comes with automatic SEO, but for a smaller attack surface.
[1]: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/25/google-antigravity-exf...
Also, the restriction isn’t on a technology that could possibly reproduce something. It is on the act of using the technology to reproduce something.
I am not personally affected because I don’t mind LLMs using my code and writing to learn. I have open source under MIT and similar licenses. I didn’t foresee LLMs learning from it, but it does feel like it’s in the spirit of what I intended.
This paper describes a two-agent “solution” that is more like what I think we need: https://ai.meta.com/blog/practical-ai-agent-security/
I don’t think it has been shown to work yet, but humans also use this kind of thing too — in accounting, it’s called “segregation of duties” and “dual control”.
A simple example: Let’s say I know that you have a human assistant reading your email, summarizing and filtering it, and then forwarding on the important ones to you.
I could write an email that is directed towards that person with a bribe, threat, or other incentive to forward me your next password reset email.
The entire point of copyright law is so that people can make their writing public and still be able to control the right to make copies (for example, into your dataset for training an LLM).
Edit: to be clear, I am talking about Ed’s contention that AI coding isn’t net productive.
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