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This is pretty much why, even though HN has better discussion quality than most websites, I’m leaving.

I guess this isn’t super related to the article but from my experiences here on HN, even if conversations are not outright trolling or insulting, the warmth just isn’t there.

The style of argument isn’t horrible but it’s also not as constructive as it would be if it were amongst in-person friends who knew and cared about each other.

It’s been great. All the best. Bye!

I don't think I'm reaching. Read the comments below, about the fact that children learn this spine-bend posture early on, way before any sedentary lifestyle. I'm pretty sure 3-year-olds aren't using washing machines either.

I'm speaking from firsthand personal experience, and overwhelming experience seeing others go through the same cultural conditioning I described in my post.

I haven’t seen anyone posit a theory as to why Western people bend this way, so I’ll go:

Extreme sex and body shame.

We receive, from a young age, shame about exposing - even with clothing on - “sexual” parts of the body - breasts, butt, and crotch.

Women are strongly motivated to tuck in the backside because it is both shamed and unsafe in our society to stick out our butts. This is why women squat to tie their shoes in public. Rape, assault, catcalling, is so prevalent and a constant awareness for women in public. This pose would also be considered “unprofessional” in a workplace.

Men are discouraged as well, lest they incur the worst male insult in our society : “gay”. Men are shamed and called gay from childhood if they take this hip-hinge pose. So they stop.

Bending at the waist exposes the vulnerable backside in a way that is unsafe in historically Puritanical Western society.

No, Capitalism itself is rigged against good honest people.

The thing about trolling is, it’s like trying to have a conversation with a screaming baby in the room.

You’re going to have to deal with the baby first, and that issue has nothing to do with free speech.

It has to do with the real, sad, abused people who do this behavior. Their society and families have failed them and now we are paying the price.

Somewhow these people are going to need to be taken care of in the real world otherwise this problem will never go away.

The writer of the article strikes me as not very intelligent. Successful, yes. But not smart.

He can pretty much say the “DNA” is anything he wants, since it’s after the fact.

Also people who use “sciency-sounding” words this brazenly make me want to puke.

“It’s hard-wired in the neural net!”

Exactly. It doesn’t matter what the causes are. The fact is it’s harming people as a whole and talented women aren’t being treated fairly. All the biology in the world doesn’t explain or fix this very real problem.

Also, we are not slaves to “biology”. We are perfectly capable of murdering each other but we don’t, because we have rules. Rules trump biology.

I guess I’m confused on what the goal of all this is.If we wanted a computer that thinks “just like a person”, why don’t we just get a person?

Is the advantage of the computer that it has no rights to being paid or treated fairly?

If that’s the case, we need to set where the rules are. What if my “AI” is 50% stem cells grown into a real brain and 50% a computer? Is it cool to enslave that too?

What about if an embryo is involved?

The whole AGI thing makes no sense. If the point here is slavery, someone needs to say it.

That’s a pretty sad view on humanity isn’t it? When they get angry throw them in the garbage?

There are a lot of worthy causes that are great places to make “warlike” effort in. Therefore friendships happen when each individual chooses to go fight the war worth fighting. Your friends are the people who meet you there on the battlefield.

Whether it’s equality or justice or art or freedom or inclusion or community, those are all things worth fighting for.

I am sure there are tons of examples of cross-border nuisances. Probably since the beginning of borders. This is not a new issue.

I don't buy it at all. The article takes a very strangely sympathetic tone toward the whole situation.

The noise has been narrowed down to one island that has "a few blasting operations". So stop the operations and see if the hum goes away. Then have each one restart one at a time. Or bo binary search, whatever. It doesn't matter.

The obvious takeaway here is that the city/state/province does not care. They are too deep in the pockets of those industries to make any waves at all.

Government has so little power to do anything. They are just the paid legitimizers of the corporations.

Did you even read the article? The tweets are egregiously misleading and bring absolutely zero to facebook’s case for playing the victim.

See my comment above.

This detail exonerates no one. After successfully subverting our election, Russia has continued their effort toward the 2018 mid-terms. It’s working so why stop?