logic_beats_pro

Prove it then... not even the 20 million but just a single death saved because of the vaccine. You cannot. It's not a rip on you, nobody can. Hence it's not provable.

If anyone could, they would have already and wouldn't have to resort to nonsense theoretical computer models.

VERY interested in your attempt though gets out popcorn

The problem is there is no way to accurately tell if the vaccine saved a single life, let alone 20 million

As you see in the article, this is a mathematical model which indicates vaccines saved 20,000,000 lives. It is completely unprovable and only serves as a nice sounding talking point.

I also could claim 20,000,000 lives were saved by natural immunity. Or vitamin D from sunshine. Or the placebo effect.

All of those mentioned are also not provable.

Yes, asking questions is now enough to get you labeled a conspiracy nut job.

That toddler who continuously asks "why?" ten times in a row - conspiracy crank!!!

>Having a global pandemic led to the urgency to adapt them to human conditions where they have saved millions of lives

They've been trying for 10 years to get approval for human use. COVID was just the battering ram used to get them authorized for emergency use.

And your last point on saving millions of lives is complete speculation which is unknowable and unprovable. I can just as easily make the claim that cross reactive immunity from a precious Coronaviris infection saved millions of lives.

Did you mean Liberals on that 2nd to last sentence?

Excuse me sir, your deeply authoritarian side is showing.

It comes down to this: your collectivism ends where my individualism begins. Can you compel me to take an unwanted vaccine against my will? You can't? It's still my choice? Then kiss my ass.

The previous average vaccine testing duration was ~5 years. Let's not pretend that the mRNA vaccines were even close to that.

Fun fact, the Omicron BA.5 booster isn't tested at all.

This is absolutely glorious. I'm rooting for you two.

Oh absolutely settling was safest for GSK.

They settled to silence anyone that had adverse events and made them sign non disclosure agreements as part of the payout.

I trust the FDA as far as I can throw them. Suspected they were dirty for a long time and COVID proved it. To me they are an arm of the pharmaceutical industry which does everything in its power to suppress and sanction alternative medicine. Big pharma considers anything other than drug interventions or vaccines "competition".

Why do people feel compelled to mislead others with something so important. Especially today after everything that happened with the COVID-19 vaccines.

There were adverse events. There were no serious adverse events (SAEs).

Does it do anything against Babesia, Anaplasma, Bartonella, Erlichia, Epstein Barr Virus, HHV-6, Mycoplasma Fermentans, Mycoplasma pneumoniae, Chlamidia trachomatis, Yersinia enterocolitica or any of the other known Lyme coinfections?