lboasso
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Comment · 1 year ago
Author of oberonc here, thanks for trying it out :)
Comment · 2 years ago
I think Fogus was able to summarize it quite well in his "Six works of Computer Science-Fiction" blog post [0]:
"Wirth’s magnum opus is the quintessential example of Computer Science alternative-history world-building."
Note that Oberon was not only the name of a programming language, it was also the name of an innovative (at that time) operating system. It is possible to program real-world programs today in Oberon depending on the used implementation. For example oberonc [1] is a compiler targeting the JVM and allows you to leverage the JVM ecosystem by invoking Java code (or any other language that compiles to Java bytecode). For more Oberon implementations see [2]
[0] http://blog.fogus.me/2015/04/27/six-works-of-computer-scienc...
Comment · 3 years ago
You are right, but as you can see at page 11 (Figure 4 rightmost AST) of The Oberon System Family paper [0], Wirth's approach was extended to "hint" destinations as well.
[0] https://www.research-collection.ethz.ch/bitstream/handle/20....
Comment · 3 years ago
It would be great to have a simple Virgil x86-64 backend based only on the destination-driven code generation technique, and compare the performance of the generated code (and compilation speed) with the official optimizing x86-64 backend.
Would the implementation effort be comparable to the JVM backend?
BTW I really like the design of Virgil described in "Harmonizing Classes, Functions, Tuples,and Type Parameters in Virgil III", bravo!
Comment · 3 years ago
It is interesting to see that this approach has been used by Niklaus Wirth in most of his compilers, see "Compiler Construction - The Art of Niklaus Wirth" by Hanspeter Mössenböck [0].
This technique was also described by David R. Hanson in "Code Improvement via Lazy Evaluation", 1980 [1] and "Simple Code Optimizations", 1983 [2].
[0] https://github.com/lboasso/oberonc/blob/master/doc/Moe00b.pd...
Comment · 3 years ago
The Oberon programming language is 37 years old. Since it is a memory safe language a compiler for the JVM can be written (with some workarounds), for example see the self-hosting compiler oberonc [0].
Comment · 4 years ago
If you want to try out only the Oberon language, you might be interested in oberonc [0] an oberon-07 self-hosting compiler for the JVM. There are other several Oberon implementations for different platforms listed here[1]
Comment · 4 years ago
If you want to try out only the Oberon language, you might be interested in oberonc [0] an oberon-07 self-hosting compiler for the JVM. There are other several Oberon implementations for different platforms listed here[1]
Comment · 4 years ago
If you want to try out only the Oberon language, you might be interested in oberonc [0] an oberon-07 self-hosting compiler for the JVM.
There are other several Oberon implementations for different platforms listed here[1]
Comment · 5 years ago
If you want to try out only the Oberon language, there are several Oberon implementations for different platforms, including embedded systems, native windows executables, and the Java virtual machine: http://oberon07.com/compilers.xhtml
Comment · 5 years ago
When I read this book I had an hard time running and compiling the source code included. If you want to read the book and try out the example compiler (oberon0), you can follow the instructions here: https://github.com/lboasso/oberon0. You just need a JVM >= 8 and the oberonc compiler: https://github.com/lboasso/oberonc
Comment · 5 years ago
When I benchmarked oberonc [0], an oberon-07 self-hosting compiler for the JVM, it took about 100 ms with a hot VM on a old Intel i5 @ 2.80GHz. That compiler follows the same one-pass compilation approach.
Comment · 6 years ago
You might be interested in oberonc [0] an oberon-07 self-hosting compiler for the JVM.
Comment · 6 years ago
> And a lot of the compilers and tooling seems to be weirdly Windows-oriented
When I read this book I had an hard time running and compiling the source code included. If you want to read the book and try out the example compiler (oberon0), you can follow the instructions here: https://github.com/lboasso/oberon0. You just need a JVM >= 8 and the oberonc compiler: https://github.com/lboasso/oberonc
Comment · 7 years ago
If you want to try out the Oberon language, there are several Oberon implementations for different platforms, including embedded systems, native windows executables, and the Java virtual machine: http://oberon07.com/compilers.xhtml