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True.

> I'm not saying the same is necessarily true of any given 'contagious' animal vaccine, but it could be.

That's what I think I wanted to say.. there is a huge difference to anything self-spreading / replicating - be it self-reproducing true AI nano robotors, simple things as self replicating plants (and here we have already a dozen examples of promised containment not working with bad consequences involved - oops) or 'contagious' vaccines.. it needs to be magnitudes safer, not?

So if as an individual there is a minimal risk to my health by taking a mRNA vaccine, I can decide for myself vs the risk of infection or consequences, or also let my doctor decide. It is also easy to run "trials" among the population for studies. But if there is a risk to our complete biosphere, that is just very different for the risk calculation?

Because when the original thing didn't work as intended (with which we were pretty sure, otherwise we'd never done it cause of the risks) then the kill switch will work 100% as intended for sure, and also have no unexpected side effects?

totaling 8 now .. but in the end will need another one really going down bad to stop all the sudden pro-nuclear movement here in Europe, which I can imagine only must have some astroturfing behind.

But til then, blow more money into insurable and as much green as coal and gas power plants :(

(And that calculations done by real experts didn't even include all the other uneconomic issues from getting that stuff from somewhere til storing the waste - but yeah I know, all these waste will be taken by those new shiny molten reactors that have no problem at all on paper and will eat all the waste - both things just so far from reality in practice, which almost does not exist even).

The common stance and knowledge here at HN about all this is consternating :(

How cynical, if that was what how colonialism there and everywhere else was like, wow..

Yeahyeah, freedom over all, and everything natural is also good, right ? :D Please also reflect on the rhetorics you bring up here :D This is black and white painting, there are a lot of levels between..

> No, they should not have accepted being barred.

But what if most accepted those limitations, and while personally a disaster, found it on the other hand right to follow common sense and obey rules applying to everyone for the greater cause of society? Rules applying to everyone the same is one of the basic foundations of a just society...

> Also expelling a person who has already got in the country physically and attended a courts makes no sense from the epidemiological point of view - he has already brought the virus

No matter what you argue beyond, the epidemiological aspect is now not really the point here anymore. He faked stuff for entry one or the other way (I think it is even more likely he wasn't positive at all, but that the second test was just created so he counts as recovered, which was the requirement to get in if not vaccinated..) - so its good to see consequences on that.

Short term - long term we realize now it is eroding and "destryoing" it - like tech debt it is creating soil debt :)

Romantic but far off topic from what it is about here?

With that, death becomes indeterministic for everybody, because unless believing that everything is predetermined, if someone will be remembered/thought off again is .. (even with the clacks thing btw).

And then also, what about people living, and noone ever thinking of them, are they dead too? :s

We must be looking at very different numbers - or what do you mean with regulation, requiring some safety standards?

Nowhere nuclear got economic, required massive subsidies - and in the end has been driven by the need for the precious byproducts?

Not understanding what you are both getting at ... the situation has maybe changed now.

But before, here at least, it was repeatedly underestimating the in the aftermath clearly visible exponential growth, exactly as the r factor is calculated? Which scientist/MD doesn't understand there is a saturation, in the extreme even schoolers understand you cannot have more than 100% infected.

Yes, at some point it is becoming logistic, but the previous waves were not about getting anywhere there, but going from 0.1% to 1% or more, and there it was truly exponential growth and overwhelming the health care system, what the start of that logistic curve is about..?!

And that thinking is insane to me, long-term best is to have renewables and not pollute - nuclear is no alternative but just another bad with too many problems, bad economics, and waste produced.

Now we bring another very specific for that location argument, while the general new consensus for here seems to be that is the ultimate solution to the climate crisis? The rhetoric strawman is also pretty cheap...

Yes, and they as enough still others believe that you don't solve one huge problem by going back to another huge problem.

Just dig out the numbers and realize this project is as expensive and uneconomic as every other of our +50year history record before..

And as if this was the only problem and it hadn't a lot of huge others, nuclear proponents will use this now as an example how nuclear is the way out of the climate crisis, and how comparing nuclear with renewables is wrong..

No, the best future would be neither fossil nor nuclear.

> I find it problematic that the university requires any cookie consent whatsoever in the first place.

Totally right, and also

> If someone else is okay with the data transfer, he can opt-in if he wants to. I should not carry the burden of having to opt-out of it.

so much this. If something is spiraling out of hands it is the cookie usage, which is 99% AD tracking.

The current law is badly implemented, or lead to bad implementation. Now almost every site asking your for their necessary or "helping" cookies, most often using dark patterns to trick you into just accepting all - and because you get this stupid cookie prompt on every page now, everybody just wants to click it away as fast as possible, which misses the target totally, too :(

Still, its not data protection spiraling out of hand, but that basically every site, even ones where I don't login to or want to drop off any other data, but just fetch a small information, wants to set cookies is ridiculous. We all should have never accepted that, but too late?