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In my opinion, "other things are just as bad" is as good an argument as "if you turn it off, it's not dangerous".

I still think it's not smart to send push notifications in an active shooter situation for a feature that is made to give people who are not involved peace of mind. If you consider such risks, and not get defensive right away, you will find that solutions can be pretty simple, e.g. a banner inside the app, instead of a notification.

If the safety of your products depends on disabling features, you should stay out of anything remotely safety critical.

> If you are in an area impacted by a disaster Facebook will send you a push notification asking if you are OK.

I guess that's great during an earthquake but can be terrible when you're hiding during a terrorist act.

On a meta level, I find it worth noting that you, as somebody who talks about women as "women" gets quite different, and seemingly more honest, answers from them than the other poster who calls them "girls". It's almost as if treating people with respect mattered.

I agree that the general advice is disturbing. However, looking at grandparent's post, I highly doubt that he asked the question in a way that indicated a judgement free response to the answer. This will not get him honest answers.

This is a perfectly valid agenda, but it doesn't entitle one to doing so using the results of somebody else's labour.

> Should the germans and the french follow suit with a referendum whether they should bail out greece again?

Yes, and they should have done so much earlier. If the other Eurozone governments would have listened to popular demand, Greece would not have been bailed out, and the default would not affect their taxpayers as much as it does now. The whole bailout programme was hubris, and it is time to call the bluff.

They were elected based on their promise not to accept more austerity. I would agree with parent that they don't have a democratic mandate to do the opposite now, even if they could legally do it.

Many engineers often seem to forget that their work has impact on the lives of people. I think that, in the part of the email that you are not quoting, Roy Fielding makes a very good point that TLS everywhere is not just a technical issue, but has significant social implication.

Thus, incentives and motives are very valid concerns. If the IETF's idea of professionalism precludes the discussion of ethical concerns, it needs to change.

I re-read the conversation after reading your comment, and find them assertive but not hostile.

I am apalled that your rational argument is being downvoted, instead of disagreed with in the comments. On the other hand, it makes perfect sense, and fits the topic: It's easier to downvote or loot than to discuss or take political action.

Supposing that most of the rioters did not make use of most of their means of nonviolent action for years, I cannot agree with your statement. Occupy was a different story, being a mostly nonviolent movement.

In India, peaceful, nonviolent resistance got rid of the British.