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the web is a pile of horse shit why is this even news. the best part is how all the SJW apple tesla cloud smart tech yuppies in tech dont care about how 99% of the world who cant afford to buy a new machine every year have an experience on their product worse in every way than dial up as they force every formerly paper transaction onto web. just opening firefox with blank home page can take deciseconds and even minutes. even opening a new blank tab is unresponsive and lags up the UI. on anything but mid-high range desktop hardware.

how does this even have 200 upvotes? i cant count more than 1 or 2 websites that doesnt have infinite bloat for useless nonsense like the cookie popup social media whatever 10 meme frameworks and 100 js libs injected into the page. HNers just read "bad stuff bad", respond "yup" like a zombie, and continue doing bad stuff

Here's what needs to happen:

The tech industry is not ready for pervasive internet enabled devices that have microphones, cameras, or control heavy machinery. It all needs to be taken out. Aside from the threat to human life (due to malfunctioning vehicle software), we're heading straight for a dystopia where you can get arrested for walking down the street and committing a thought crime because every house will have cameras facing the street hooked into some company like Amazon that will simply be commandeered by the government to "fight crime because if you aren't giving us access to your camera you aren't against crime".

I don't know what legal movements this needs, it has to be something that doesn't backfire. The obvious thing to do is just ban Amazon from selling products like Ring, and remove software and radio communication from home appliances and vehicles. Software in a television shouldn't be legal. It has environmental consequences too not just privacy (which right now is a problem since every TV just scans what your watching and reports back to the company.

you cant sue someone for writing down what error messages that product can produce. you cant sue someone for reverse engineering their product (it has to have been done for an actual purpose like cracking or copying). you also cant sue someone for so happening to take teh shortcut of reverse engineering to obtain what they could have got just from using the product.

1. stop putting software in things 2. especially dont put webshit in things 3. especially dont put smartphone shit in things

really, i'm not trying to sound rude, theres no other way to put it, you deserve it. its unfortunate that people value "politeness" over reason. this is the hard truth that people in this bubble have not been able to face for 20 years now. the web is an abomination which was never created for anything other than corporate interests and serving magazines. of course it's practically inoperable. same exact story for smartphones, it was created by some scum web company to carry out the old trope of making a software ecosystem where shitty devs that cant make their own software come to and said scummy company gets to rule over. none of this implies any good or even reasonably working software

also laundry is a trivial task, it was only hard before washing machines. also this is one example of where technology actually made our lives better but all kinds of idiots like environmentalists and corpos are trying to ruin it.

> I miss this kind of playfulness in computing.

it's still right here every day when Firefox says "gah this tab crashed".

why are these new languages always built to solve problems in windows or unix or whatever

and the main problem in those os are that there are 21 languages and thats before you even start talking about build systems, config files, and query languages and serialization. how would adding a new language to fix memory leaks make anything better? i see much worse problems here like you still have to build an sql query out of a string. the whole rust having this was just to make c people more comfortable to using a post 90s language (i.e memory safe)

there absolutely never was a "line of death". one of the major problems with web and OS isolation has always been that they could never make up their mind where to draw the line. i never even knew they have nomenclature for this until now (only closest concept i heard of was secure attention key).

> security indicators in the URL bar are misunderstood.

it really amazes me how for 10 years we had java applets that can just show an obscure message to the user about "something something signing" and if they press okay they can execute arbitrary code as design (because they consented to running unsigned code which implies that the code can run on your computer with full privileges, and the only way youd know this is if you read about java sandboxing internals for a few hours), and security experts cant find out why the user cant figure out how to be secure. the reason is what people keep saying: everything is broken. all these bullshit HTTPS symbols in the URL bar dont help either, nor does "oh noes self signed blah blah".

> New web platform features have introduced new modalities for displaying web content. For example, the Payment Handler API introduced a new type of embedded browser window for completing payment flows.

which were absolutely never legit. you should never trust a website that wants you to log in to your bank which shows a bank page ostensibly being served by your bank in their own window. its unfortunate that web devs (predictably) took the path of least resistance but thats how it is. everything is broken.