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Yep, and “off-topic rant” contains twelve letters, a space, and a dash.

If I am misunderstanding what you are talking about, then that is more about your inability to successfully communicate than any problem I have.

> I don't know what you mean by "take this to politician place"

Well, you wrote this, didn’t you?

>> This regime have flagrantly violated their oaths of office, outright ignoring their Constitutional roles and instead acting in bad faith to achieve their own personal/political goals.

You turned a simple question about what crimes were committed and convicted by tech leaders that deserved prison and decided to loop in a diatribe against the current administration. You apparently have an axe there you want to grind. So be it, but perhaps grind away on another thread appropriate to that topic.

> That behavior is most certainly in the realm of criminality, despite there not being a law that directly states it. Rather it's the kind of thing that needs to be decomposed into specific chargeable crimes by prosecutors, after having been investigated for the extent of communications, agreements, etc that effect the conspiracy. And then judges make an actual decision which intrinsically creates new precedents (ie common law) because these type of things don't happen every dao.

So…your answer is “no, they have not committed a crime for which they can be put in prison, but you really hope that some prosecutors and judges can get together to invent some way to parse legal behavior you disagree with into creating a precedent that can bypass congress’s responsibility to make law”. Good to know.

It is shit like this that make people like you fucking scare the shit out of me…way more than some tech bro training AI on copyrighted material (And to put that in perspective, I am one of those people who think AI is probably gonna eventually kill us).

First, you seem to want to take this to politician place, I was asking about the crimes ypthat these executives have committed and convicted of that deserve prison.

> These types of crimes aren't generally formalized and written down

Then they aren't crimes. To have a crime you need a law first. Someone then has to break that law. You need an authority that recognizes and can enforce that law. Then you need a conviction under that law and a legal authority that can met out punishment. If you don't have a law, you cant have a crime and you cant have a conviction for it.

> But worries about how that might play out should not prevent us from demanding justice for what by all measures appears to be a concerted attack on the United States!

So your solution is “lets make what they did illegal now, and then convict them for a current law for something they did in the past that wasn’t illegal at the time they did it”?

Seems to me to be a dangerous precedent to set and one that will be used against you whenever power shifts (and power always shifts).

You are posting links to civil judgements instead of criminal ones. This thread branch is about putting folks into prison. I am asking where these people have been convicted of a criminal offense where the punishment is prison. Do you have anything there? Because last I understood, the government needs to prove you guilty before they can incarcerate you in a prison.

It’s remarkable to me the number of people on this site whose “heartfelt convictions” change with the direction of the political winds.

Perhaps you could just provide us one law deserving prison that they have broken instead of waving off the question?

Specifically?

What law do you believe that they have broken?

> One word, "Musk". Its a trigger word for a small majority of the population

Well…it is fashionable to hate all things Elon.

The Guardian (i.e. someone on its staff) chose to publish this opinion piece.

I spent 8 years of my life at a daily news organization, I know for a fact that reporters, editors, executives, and sometimes even the advertisers have a voice in what is published…whether opinion or not.

> It wasn’t pretty but my roommates were happier with some painters tape on the walls than my computer being in the kitchen.

I’d be willing to bet your roommates would have been even happier if you used wifi.

> No chance 3 ever passes

No chance any ever passes. Amendment’s are difficult to pass by design.

The equal rights amendment which virtually nobody actually really opposes in theory in 2026 has been bantered around for 103 years as a concept and 54 years after congress approved it and sent it for ratification. Its close, but still no cigar. This is an amendment that is hardly controversial bit still cannot manage to be passed due to procedural issues and set deadlines being missed.

Now consider just how much effort and how long a controversial amendment would take…

Castro was already playing footsie with the Soviets and Castro nationalizing US business interests was one of the reasons we decided to invade.

That was 64 years ago and are you suggesting here that things that happened that far back have no bearing today? Hell, the brother of the dictator from 64 years ago is currently in charge there today still oppressing the Cuban people so it’s not like there hasn't been some continuity.

> How is not bothering to understand your business

If you are a lawyer how technically competent would you need to be to have complete assurance that your engineering team is now and always will be in full compliance to eliminate all risk to allow a lack of consent.

Or…you just drop the Ack on site and not worry over it. Thats not spite, it’s compliance convenience.

The method of compliance may may not be perfect, but it addresses the legal problem. There wouldn't be a legal issue without the law. This is not a chicken or the egg situation. No law, no need to inform even if no tracking cookies exist.

> hassle your customers in the worst way they have so far conceived

By informing and asking for a acknowledgment? That seems pretty benign compared to a ton of things I have seen over the last nearly three decades.