kadonoishi
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[1] The video of the debate itself.
I thought solar won.
[0] https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/notes-from-the-progress-stu...
A dramatic line. I made a note of it.
To detect an absence, the brain cannot rely on sensory input, by definition. To be surprised if sensory evidence is _not_ there requires a model of the world strong enough to register surprise if the expectation is not there, without a sensory prompt.
It seems to me detecting an absence is a strictly higher-order neurological task than processing sensory input.
If LLMs can't do this strictly higher-order neurological task, is that not a capability currently unique to living things?
edit: Ok that wasn't too hard, it was in a box. It's
"Fields on the Hoof: Nexus of Tibetan Nomadic Pastoralism" by Robert B. Ekvall, 1968, 1983.
Thanks for making me go find that, the notebook for the class is interesting to look at again.
I got to the end (it was a small book, only maybe 110pp) wondering what in the heck this thing was, and flipped to look at the author at the back. And it was a missionary! Instantly my attitude flipped; I was in awe that a missionary could do such good anthropology, and the inconsistencies in framing made perfect sense.
This author has good psychological insights, but her theoretical framings are somewhat mis-specified, inconsistent, sometimes out-of-date by psychological standards, to my eye. But it's very good stuff.
artist : psychologist :: missionary : anthropologist
To reconcile that with the common experience of time progressing, it could be a sort of statistical matter of time not repeating exactly, where the accumulation of little differences produces the experience of passing time out of quantum-level mostly repeating time.
Time "repeats" in that we have days, years; your heart repeatedly beats about once a second; menstruation is about a month.
Time "progresses" more literally in that nothing repeats, "repeating" seems like an abstraction. Tuesday, Nov 12, 2024 only happens once; Tuesday happens every week; Nov 12 happens every year.
It's not very workable to keep in mind the literal physical view that every day, every second is unique. Interferes with using experience.
Here's [0] a nice video on Schrodinger's equation, where it's written nicely
H psi = ih d/dt psi
H is doing a lot of work. psi is the mysterious wave function. h explains what it's talking about by giving the units.
The i on the right side, in this writing, is associated with the time partial derivative d/dt. i, the imaginary number, is associated with rotations, which means in a way this writing of Schrodinger's Equation is implying rotational time, repeating time.
Suppose time really is legit repeating even way down deep. Then try reinterpreting your negative feedback loops as repeating time.
To extend speculatively, invoke the notion of fractals, where you can iterate and find more complexity thereby.
So suppose that life repeats time, but in the manner of a fractal where you uncover more structure by iterating.
The apparent rarity of intelligent life might be a statistical matter of there being lots of opportunities for such life to arise, but also lots of hazards of random destruction.
... on reflection, while this might be intellectually satisfying, it's not particularly nice to contemplate.
I started over with Gemini with the prompt "can you evaluate the final odds for a hypothesis, given a number of observations that could be evidence for or against that hypothesis". It first laid out Bayes' Theorem in its odds form, and then asked me to lay out the hypothesis and set of observations.
I did so, with it leading me through asking for three or four observations at a time. Gemini came up with its own assessment of the odds for each one, justifying the odds it gave based on historical background context like draft rules around going to college; worked up the running odds as it went; and provided a narrative interpretation.
Gemini's final tally of observations was 10 in favor, 2 neutral, and 2 against, where my own by-hand analysis in a spreadsheet had come out 12-0 in favor (Gemini came up with a couple more things like inquiring about his 1969 draft lottery number). The individual odds we came up with independently were largely quite comparable. Gemini's final aggregated odds were 124,000-to-1 in favor where my spreadsheet analysis had 4600-to-1. Its final narrative assessment was that the history I described appeared to be a classic case of "draft hedge."