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clearly managed logging forest area

So we never build anything less it hurt a tree?

That seems like a bit of a false equivalency this was not some precious old growth forest, it was basically a managed logging area so more comparable to some farm land in the US, and this is me speaking as a certified tree hugger here.

I mean you could say something similar about most utilities though. Google will pay taxes on their investment to Finland and the services will be available to people in the region whats else would you really ask for?

yeah I was wondering about this since when I looked on the map the "forest" area in question appears to be rather new and was clearly part of a reforestation effort also the first thing I saw when randomly looked at the street view in the area was logging trucks harvesting the trees.

Interesting the forest area in question doesn't appear to be some sort of amazing old growth forest thats been there for centuries it appears to be old logging sites that was maybe reforested a few decades or so ago.

sure but that is still less than the total users of electricity.

Yes but for most people electricity is an absolute necessity, the average person could easily live without AI should it disappear from their lives.

I never said I wouldn't miss it or that is is useless, just that in comparison to other services I pay for (or the company I work for pays for) I could easily live without it. I have to ask though, are these lines of code making you money? If so will you continue to need to produce this amount of code over the next 2 to 5 years to continue to profit from your work? I also would point out this argument could be applied to choosing some open source framework over another because of the number of lines of code it contains which doesn't make sense.

I can't think of any use case for AI that is a necessity for myself (or people I know), even if coding agents (which I use every day) disappeared tomorrow it would only be a minor inconvenience that I had to write my own code again. Now lets contrast that with electricity or internet, if either of those went offline I would be on a call trying to get them restored asap, now as far as I know neither of those industries bring in $6T in revenue.

> We must move past vague discussions of “AI” and instead isolate the specific types of systems that are creating problems.

This is absolutely correct and its surprising how rarely you see commenters in the media push to go into the specifics on this. AI is just matrix math and its what you connect that math to that matters, we should talk a little more about what we are willing to connect AI to and little less about how scary or capable the models appear.

yeah that part seems weird, I mean if its a public api thats literally the use case it was designed for.

I'm really hoping AI does not become the next political culture war thing, but I'm afraid it probably already is moving in that direction; though it does at least seem that the dividing lines won't be red vs blue this time.

I really hope the bar associations continues to hold lawyers to high standards but I have feeling they may not be ready to handle fallout of AI slop-law.

Can someone who has insight explain why all these "leaders" are making these bold proclamations of doom all the sudden, whats the endgame here?