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For which part of that commend did I get the downvotes? Seriously interested to know so I can write more of that.

But its true? This research organization doesn't have to beg for short-term or 3rd party research money?

Also, I'm really pissed and also I'm kind of convinced that its too late anyways to try to convince someone who says stuff like that that they're not right. The only thing that can still be done is trying to keep more people from getting sucked into that black hole. The best way to do this seems to be to de-platform these people. The 2nd best way? No idea. Did I mention I'm pissed?

I mean, do you really believe well-researched, weighted, deliberate, thought-through arguments still help? Wouldn't climate science then have succeeded in convincing people? Maybe 20, 30 years ago. But then some people decided to start systematically lying instead of facing reality and lots of people decided to believe those lies and not face reality, and here we are.

> and why are you taking it up with me

Don't be sad. For grown ups its normal to live with objections. You'll learn.

> How is natural behavior relevant to the discussion

Original post: " Perhaps a particular chimp or gorilla was having a really bad day and just went out looking for a fight." that implies natural behavior.

Well he IS a wild chimp attacking people, right?

Sorry chimps, that was mean.

Give it five minutes and you'll contradict yourself.

And you have enough knowledge on the subject matter so this can be seen as an educated guess, or are you just throwing some good-knowing words around to see what sticks?

The first sentence is: "Forest clearing has forced hungry chimps to raid villagers’ crops."

So it doesn't seem that's their natural behavior. So how's that relevant? Oh wait it its, just exactly the opposite of what you said! Nice.

> I don't see why small encounters that result in one or two deaths would be totally unexpected.

And if you, in your grand wisdom, don't see it, it cannot be the case. Yeah.

Because they don't want to randomly attack people for no reason, other than you?

Yeah and you don't know how the research organization works that produced that research, so ...

Except you're the one who's lying ...? Weird.

Yeah and when its commenters throwing around arguments that just don't apply here they're doing everyone a disservice.

How is the behavior of some random humans relevant here?

People lie. People who care more about getting their PhD and less about the actual research. Cause they don't have the integrity to not cheat. If you care about the actual research, why cheat.

And still if researchers would only care about getting funding, they'd all "prove" that them fucking democrats eat children cause man, would they get donations by them QAnon people.

And of course if you have a distinguished researcher in a field voicing a clear and educated guess/opinion, its worth much more then any random person commenting here ...

> Perhaps a particular chimp or gorilla was having a really bad day and just went out looking for a fight.

Do chimps and gorillas do such things?