inference-lord

The "enshitification" of the internet makes me laugh.

I know that seems like a non-issue in the grand scale of things, but Tsunami's of the past didn't do this. Most pollution was biodegradable.

I can't imagine what the coast of LA would look like after a similar event :(

I'm not saying that they can't be more capable, I'm saying the guy can get a little overly excited about things which are hard to measure or quantify.

We're observing these systems and making up our own interpretations about how good they are at certain tasks, but it's not really easy to measure how much better or worse these things can be overall.

Your example about language translation is a good example of where these things aren't really "better", just different. I speak multiple languages and while these systems are fantastic, they can fail in ways a professional translator wouldn't and it doesn't seem to automatically know it failed and should fix itself.

The car example is also great because it again proves my point. We can easily measure a car and a person and workout a car is faster, but we can also see that a car can't walk. So it's faster but it;s also entirely different.

He asked an LLM a question, but he didn't give us the answer. He let us have time to answer it ourselves. Personally I knew the answer instantly. He gave us the answer and sort of assumed no one would've known the answer and then used it as as justification for how smart these systems were. It honestly didn't feel very reassuring to me and honestly, I'd be surprised if it wasn't a topic covered somewhere on the internet before. With all due respect to Mr Hinton, I felt it showed his age a bit honestly.

What is difficult about Hinton's statements is that he can't really give evidence to back up these sort of claims. How do you measure how much a person knows, and how do you objectively measure how much an LLM knows? How smart is an LLM? You can't really know. It seems almost rhetorical. How many notes in a saxophone ?

We can make observations but that's not a great way to measure anything precisely.

There is a limit to language and I think this is one of those topics where that limit is touched or even breached.I don't even know if "intelligence" is a sufficient enough word to describe what's going on with these systems. It's the best word we have but it doesn't seem to adequately describe what we're observing.

I find he can get really fixated on certain examples, things he has seen an LLM do and he can't seem to get beyond it, as if the singularity is at hand. Where as a 22 year old I work with just accepts the technology and tries to get work done with it.

Not that I disagree with you, but what new jobs as AI created?

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