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> I don't really care about the code being unmaintainable. Fable 6 or whatever will take care of it

> The code working and our feature shipping is way way more important.

I like that we both use AI very differently (you YOLO, I don't) but can agree that these are basically the important questions. If a company or team answers them like you do, I agree with the conclusion (YOLO). To me that's still a decision to be made though, and to be made wisely. Whether to accept the code may become unmaintainable, to forwardly rely on Fable 6 and to ship above anything (or at least a lot) else.

I share that experience. To the point that I don't think I'd want to work (at least for as long as I have the luxury of having a choice) on a project where an AI has been let loose.

I also see devs, seniors as well, that have a different experience. At least that's what they say. I stay open to the possibility that I'm doing or seeing it 'wrong', but I'm far from convinced. I do like to experiment like you wrote in a later comment, things may change, and even now I do find it can be very powerful, for the right tasks.

I've flagged an AI-generated add once that promoted a small device that could cool a hot room (many degrees celcius lower, very quickly, for very little energy and very little money and without external components), defying the laws of thermodynamics.

They said they investigated it and concluded it did not break any rules and no actions where taken.

What I don't understand is that on one hand we read 'what they charge is much less than it costs them' and on the other hand this thread seems to suggest that 'what they charge is more than it would cost me'.

Wouldn't be surprised if a dollar per entry already made a whole lot of difference.

I think that's the problem, or at least a problem, and a growing one.

This is me in the evening working on a side project.

Yeah I think this basically answers this entire sub-thread

And I bet the impact of your review work on their development into medior/senior goes towards 0.

I recognize this discrepancy where review effort becomes more than the coding itself. I don't think I could sustain that for long.

I picked up miniature painting as a hobby around Christmas icm 3D printing with the idea of building a Christmas village from scratch. It's always fascinating what long and winded funnels every new hobby brings. In this case brushes, synthetic vs sabel, usage, care.

Especially given how fast things progress, timeline and performance are a tradeoff where I'd say swaying things in favour of the latter is not per definition net positive.

Totally agree if the AI or search results are a (relatively) direct answer to the question.

But what if the AI is used to build up a(n otherwise) genuine human response, like: 'Perhaps the reason behind this is such-and-such, (a quick google)|($AI) suggests that indeed it is common for blah to be blah, so...'

What may be added is that some people have a hard time reading words by their 'total shape'. I can imagine that for them, the difference between pattern matching symbols and strings of letters is even more profound.

Comparable to what I read someone say about AI the other day: we're living in the small sliver of history where smart-glasses with cameras are technically feasible yet are still (kind of) detectable.

My mom has hearing aids, I only get all the technical info through her, so it's a bit blurry, but she complained about very unpleasant scratchy noises, for instance when my dad was watching videos on his iPad (for himself) elsewhere in the room. Settings were changed but now she has a harder time understanding us. We don't have to scream but if we don't speak 'clearly', she misses a lot, especially when we are with a larger group (say 10 people at a dinner). She says she has some friends that she understands very clearly, in contrast to others (admittedly, me and one of my sisters are not the best examples of how to speak crystal clear).

Perhaps this is just the limit of her hearing capacity. Or do you think she should not settle for this and push for something better?