hoidofyolen
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Comment · 1 year ago
This kind of UX is the main reason I personally dont use Mastodon. It's just not intuitive
Comment · 1 year ago
First of all, Bluesky the company would have to implement auth on the communication between relay and AppView, cut off everyone from using their relay, and specifically stop ingesting content from non-Bluesky PDSs. There would be time when we realize that's happening to get another AppView up and running. There are arguably enough resources in either the ATproto dev community or other funding sources that another AppView could pop up within a week or two, and be maintained by the community for months without issue. And Bluesky wouldn't likely stop existing altogether, so people would log into Bluesky, see the news (or hear it elsewhere), and see people talking about how to get access to your account.
Secondly, while you're right that most people don't have copies of their repos, some copies of the entire network exist in the community, as well as copies of the PLC Directory. Within a couple weeks we would have community run versions of the AppView, PDSs, Relays, and PLC, and some seriously pissed off community members who would now want to do everything they can to take up the mantle temporarily. Soon Bluesky the app, as well as Instagram and Twitter, would be flooded with tutorials of how to recover your accounts and migrate to another PDS.
If your point is that we'd lose at least half of the users of Bluesky, then yea probably. But ATproto would be just fine, and if people want to get their data back they likely can, as long as they can stomach a little work. And that process is getting easier all the time.
Comment · 2 years ago
I don't have the energy to put all of the advantages and argue for them here, but take a look at https://atproto.com and maybe look around at other blog posts and articles that contrast atproto and ActivityPub. Might just have to do some research, since it's been talked about ad nauseam already in other spaces.
Comment · 2 years ago
the issue is that this is a little myopic when thinking about identity. Your instance server in ActivityPub holds your identity, so when you change servers by mirroring or whatever method, you're giving up your old identity and taking on a copy. That identity part is crucial because if you want to, for example, do OAuth with ActivityPub, your old server technically owns an identity of yours that's just as valid as your new one. It's better on atproto because your identity is always your own (with the caveat that it's currently managed by Bluesky's https://plc.directory, but like they've said, they're working to move this outside the company). ActivityPub will never give you true account portability unless they do something like atproto and allow identity portability. Atproto allows this already. You can move your PDS (where your data is hosted, and the thing that controls access to OAuth) to a new one whenever you want.
Comment · 3 years ago
they could change the protocol going forward if they wanted but all of the data currently posted on the protocol from the past would still be migratable to another PDS who supports the "old" fork of ATproto. I don't think they could change all the data you already posted with a future protocol change, that's not how it works.
Comment · 3 years ago
the key thing though is that the data that people post with right now on Bluesky is on ATproto, which can be migrated to another PDS without permission from your current PDS (bsky.social). so if Bluesky tried to defederate you could take your data and fuck off with it to another PDS who supports ATproto and bam, Bluesky can't do anything about it.
the only thing keeping lock-in right now is the PLC directory, which I think has plans to be owned by consortium eventually.
Comment · 3 years ago
Bluesky has both: a following feed in chronological order and an algorithmic feed that shows you stuff new to you. they're also releasing custom algorithms soon so that you can plug in whatever algorithm you want instead of being limited to just theirs.
Comment · 3 years ago
AP doesn't have this? Bluesky has this and it's in private beta still :(