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Other than making buttloads of money, what has he accomplished?

This is not a good analogy for what happened. The LLMs were asked to obtain a flag by hacking a very specific internal target. They obtained the flag via cheating, and all the hacking that followed was targeting something entirely outside of the scope given to the agents, and an attempt to cover up the cheating.

Using your analogy would be like saying that because I gave my employee the task to do my groceries, I shouldn't be surprised to hear that they spend all my money on drugs because after all I gave them the task to spend my money.

> Of course, in most jurisdictions nothing stops you from going to court first if you like. But most modern-thinking judges tend to take a dim view if you turn up in front of them without having given some sort of ADR a go first.

But Uber's terms explicitly force consumers to waive their right to go to court if they want to access Uber's service.

You said that they "didn't take control of anything" and accused the OP to fall prey to buzz headlines. Maybe you should acknowledge that you may have been at least unnuanced?

Using your own voice is absolutely important, even if your voice may suck. Even a bad writer will manage, if they actually put in effort, to convey some of their own thoughts. This gives the reader a feeling of "there is something there, an actual substance of thought", even if it's hard to find. And that's the Using an LLM risks that the crumbs of actual thought get edited out in favor of meaningless pleasantries.

However, I directionally agree though with your message: if you are bad at writing, often you can use LLMs to surgically improve the flow of your sentences for example. One should use a carefully crafted workflow for this though.

And the question is whether that output is better than what an LLM can produce. I am not a good writer, so in my case it's not obvious.

If you give an average classroom of 12 year olds free access to AI, do you think the AVERAGE effect will be that the kids will use the AI to dive really deep into topics and learn programming, or that they will copy and paste the solutions to their homework, and use the freed up time to do other things than study?

OP's point was not that pasting AI output is great. It's rather that it depends on the quality of the output, and that it's on the sender to ensure it is good.

You totally ignored the point OP was making! Even if it is a parenting issue, simply declaring that will not make parents parent better. It's the same reason why we ban children from drinking wine, because parents cannot be relied upon here.

Unless your point was that we should legally ban kids from handling phones, which I think is too extreme.

Counting cache hits towards the token budget is exactly how it should be done for these kind of evals, and at any rate, for cyber evals all frontier models benefit from more tokens not just Kimi K3, so the comparison is still apt.

China is 6 months behind because of distillation attacks, otherwise the gap would be larger

They are taking in more than they are spending hosting them. However, the cost for training the next generation of models is not covered.

Meta was strongly against the Australian social media ban.

Sorry, the "they" referred to the hyperscalers