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That and Chamath seemingly defending open source. What a day to be alive.

No? The Fourth Amendment only grants you protections that apply to government action. The police are allowed to accept evidence gathered voluntarily by private citizens or corporations.

>>Does Waymo benefit society enough to carry the tradeoffs?

>Absolutely.

Citation needed.

Why stop at Waymo? The entirety of your digital activity happens on private property. You should have no expectation of privacy, and your attempts at privacy should mark you as a higher risk subject. We should algorithmically police your digital life in case you start showing signs of anti-social behavior. I don't want to wait until you get your gun into a Waymo to have the cops handle you. I want you to be caught much earlier. This will make the world much safer.

There are other ways to solve safety issues, but they are harder and more expensive - civic education and a government invested in incentivizing a productive life, better law enforcement training, freely available mental health services etc.

Yes? I am pretty sure they don't do algorithmic policing. Fwiw, they probably don't do any policing, but that is a different subject.

I am not against monitoring for safety - I am against deploying a sophisticated network of automated monitoring that covers all digital and soon physical aspects of my life for my "safety" by for profit companies.

This is a good distinction. My main concern with Waymo is that we have no way of knowing if they stick/will stick to only monitoring the inside.

Maybe we shouldn't put the whole burden of world justice on Waymo, this allowing it a complete invasion of the privacy of both the people who use it and those who don't? Guy takes a drugged up girl on the train, should we hold the train responsible for the outcome also?

Flock is bad, but fleets of cars strapped to the teeth with cameras and sensors are suddenly ok even when they call the police on you? Why? Because of the makers of the technology that powers the cars say they are safer (via datasets that we have no way to validate)?

the fact that this comment is getting downvoted into oblivion instead of discussed is poignant enough.

fwiw, my experience is similar. hn has not been about startups, vc funding, or anything in that space for quite a while.

to paraphrase a classic, this place is like a memory of the forum we used to love, and the memory is fading.

while your ignorance is bliss for you, it is a punishment for the rest of us. now get in line and wait for your boarding group to be called.

does the author claim to be a bloomberg clone?

I remember the day when my dad gave me $100 in an envelope. One of the worst days of my life.

fwiw for all the praise that dang & co get, they moderated this website into this state. there is a "blessed" way to break the rules and be a total asshole to people here, and there is the "other" way, that they punish relentlessly. we all have bad days, but HN's comments are just an exhausting cesspool of cynicism and cheap takes for the most part these days.