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And my experience has been that it's frequently harder to sidestep Google's bullshit on GrapheneOS because you don't have as much control of your phone, in the interest of security.

Honestly at this point, I'm just gonna start transitioning to Ubuntu Touch. The Android experiment has run its course.

> American requests ... are done transparently through the courts, are appealable, and don’t come through secret agencies

This reads like someone who has paid absolutely no attention to American law for 25 years.

> Chinese firms by Chinese law are forced to handover whenever CCP asks them to.

Are we pretending the same isn't true of American firms?

Like many people, my concern is not the hypothetical possibility of a security threat; it is the completely certainty that my data is being collected and monetized by private entities who have access to it "legitimately" (i.e., the technology is designed from the ground up to transmit it against my will).

So, sincere question - how is GrapheneOS superior to /e/ in protecting personal privacy against large corporations?

This is what the recent "self-policing" political grandstanding has been about - they need a sea change to implement recurrent-depth, because prevailing opinion among safety researchers is against it right now.

This is one hundred percent the kind of cover story you give someone to gauge their interest in a real classified project. Guaranteed the people who said yes to this are not working on the SR-71A.