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If you're not failing you're not trying hard enough.

Personally I don't associate it with the negative connotations you do. I associate it with the word trying.

Yea, don't debate that. I just personally have no tolerance for the behaviour of these framework developers and the level of work they impose on their users.

For a business that has engineers to manage this day to day it's less of an issue. For building things you want to live online untouched for a decade it's just not an option.

Laravel is nice to build stuff fast in one particular way. It's awful to maintain and heaven forbid you have a different idea about how things should be done.

So like PHP?

This thread is so cope.

Oh please, I professionally use both daily (enjoy them both), but even I can see JSX is just PHP with extra steps.

I started out as a symfony snob. Got sick of writing java in PHP so I picked up laravel. Got sick of having to modify my code every time Taylor huffed some new shit so I started building things using WordPress.

It's so refreshing knowing that my websites auto update themselves and I never have to update them unless there is a legitimate reason to do so.

Backwards compatibility is the ONLY thing I care about in a framework. Life's too short to babysit some frameworks ideas of how my code should work ten years after building the damn thing.

Of course, the issue is they don't have an ai industry. The idea that they do is a CCP talking point theyve been pushing lately. They're pumping out fake ai crap all over the internet.

Fun? Takes like two weekends to build the whitepaper version of google.

I dunno, it was your idea. Seems like a waste of time to me.

"I see from your resume that you're more of a maintenance programmer, but we really need people who can hit the ground running, banging out new huge kernel modules. Maybe you could assist them, by writing unit tests, and fetching their coffee, so they can focus on the challenging new stuff?"

Is "new stuff" easier work than maintaining old stuff? I always thought it was the other way around. I always give greenfield stuff to the juniors. They fuck it up I fix it. It's basically like using chatgpt.

Some people slept that way in pre industrial society. Doesn't mean everyone did.

Myth.