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So you're saying that there is an opportunity in the Android market because the apps are generally significantly worse than those in the iOS store?

Ok - so you've justified your opinion. How do you justify your offensiveness?

Why would I bother to answer a deliberately offensive comment from someone who's own posting is deeply partisan?

You don't need to register as a developer to get the command line tools.

So... Paid for alternate launchers and task switchers are the future of mobile operating systems?

> It's just crass selfishness... but here it is.

Are you being sarcastic?

So you're saying Android users don't care about innovative apps? That makes this whole discussion moot.

> Apple's provisioning process on the other hand is the most painful thing I ever experienced.

Your information is years out of date. In XCode, you click 'use this device for development' and all the provisioning is done fully automatically.

So no. It is not far easier to get your app running on the device itself. That is just false.

> Also, that it would cost a lot in development time to get something "just right" for the App Store for it to be accepted, whereas with Android you can keep on iterating and pushing changes without having to spent a huge amount of time making everything look perfect, and be absolute minimal in terms of bugs.

This is highly misleading. The App Store review process does delay iteration, and heavily crash apps are rejected but there is no requirement to spend a huge amount of time making things look perfect or absolutely minimal in terms of bugs.

> But aside from all that, this discussion is not really about quality per se. It is about figuring out your business idea, getting it right.

But surely the same logic applies to this too. Why haven't we already seen all kinds of innovative business ideas emerging through the rapid iteration that Android supposedly enables?

There are more Android apps than iOS apps, and this advantage has always been present.

So, why aren't Android apps already of superior quality?

This is all predicated on the idea that you being able to release apks easily gets users who care enough too give you valuable feedback that you can use to learn and improve your app faster.

There are more apps on the play store than the iOS store, and apks have always been easy to work with and had this same advantage.

If this advantage has always been present, why aren't the apps already better than iOS apps?

Where have you seen these anecdotes?

It progressively reduces their control over the products they make and hands that ever more over to Google.

The only reality that is acceptable on HN is that Google is unstoppable and benevolent to geeks. An optimistic view of their competitors counts as shilling.