dmbaggett
Joined 16 years ago
Joined 16 years ago
So I made space invaders out of box drawing characters.
BASIC was slow so I tried using C. (Yes, there was a minimal C compiler for the H89!) But then C was too fast and “for (i=0; i<10000; i++);” didn’t seem to slow things down like it did in BASIC so then I was stumped. “C is too fast for games!” — me
The H89 had a built-in monitor and a 5 1/4” floppy drive. Its precursor, the H8, was much like this emulated S100/Altair, with LEDs and switches as your only I/O.
The packer was the final step after a level was pre-sorted and otherwise processed. It was quite fast, so it added only a little bit of extra time to the primary work of pre-rendering every frame of the level to recover the sort order (which typically took around an hour).
I did experiment with solver algorithms but they were so obviously going to be too slow that I abandoned the idea.
Another challenge was dealing with foreground objects: you have to somehow sort these into the pre-sorted background polygons. This mostly worked with bucket sorting but we had to use the gross hack of allowing each foreground object to have tunable “push-back” to fix sorting glitches. This required manual work for each level.
Finally, while precomputing the per-frame sort order for a game like Crash would be trivial now, in 1995 we had to build our own Beowulf cluster thingy and farm the level precompute out in pieces to the artists’ SGI workstations, and levels typically took an hour to process. The artists LOVED that. :)
And this thread comes full circle: Mark Cerny actually significantly improved the performance of my original version of the Crash collision detection R3000 code. His work on this code finally made it fast enough, so it’s a really good thing he was around to help out. Getting the collision detection code correct and fast enough took over 9 months —- it was very difficult on the PS1 hardware, and ended up requiring use of the weird 2K static RAM scratchpad Sony including in place of the (removed) floating point unit.
GOOL was mainly used for creature control logic and other stuff that didn’t have to be optimized so much to be feasible. Being able to use a lisp dialect for a bunch of the code in the game saved us a ton of time. The modern analogue would be writing most of the code in Python but incorporating C extensions when necessary for performance.
Andy made GOAL (the successor lisp to GOOL) much more low-level, and it indeed allowed coding essentially at the assembly level (albeit with lispy syntax). But GOOL wasn’t like this.
https://ifdb.org/viewgame?id=c896g2rtsope497w
Graham Nelson ported my port to his Inform language, and Inform is probably your best choice if what you actually want to do is write a (plain text) adventure game.
If you want to learn C programming, writing a text adventure in C would be a fun learning project! But aside from pedagogy there’s no real reason to write a text adventure in anything other than Inform, TADS, etc. Not only is it much easier to use one of these purpose-built languages, with Inform you get multi-platform compatibility going back to the 8-bit era for free!
Personally if I had any free time, I’d be more interested in looking at how to use a frontier LLM like llama as an integral part of a text adventure. There was something like this using GPT-2 circulating on here a while back, but it was pretty rough.
However, it’s clear that if you figured out how to precisely control the LLM so it didn’t produce crazy stuff, you could realize the dream of truly realistic NPCs in these games. Text adventures would seem to be a perfect laboratory for experimenting with this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATPCO
However, interpreting this data properly is decidedly nontrivial (>1M LoC).
Pricing does not imply booking is OK, though. And even circa 1999, Southwest hassled us (ITA Software) about even showing their fares, without us offering any way to book any flights on any carrier.
After that, I co-founded travel search company ITA Software with Jeremy Wertheimer and Carl de Marcken; this company powers Kayak, Orbitz, and many airline websites. Google bought ITA Software in 2010 (closed Apr 2011) for ~$700M, and the system is now known as Google Flights.
INKY, my most recent startup, pioneered new techniques in email security. Kaseya acquired INKY in October 2025.