davidpayne11

There is a very thin line between being a feminist and being an asshole. The problem with these women, who claim to be angered by women being treated as objects is that they don't identify the real problem.

Women are attracted to men and men are attracted to women. This is basic nature and no one can change it. Using either to sell a product is not exactly sexism. For example, many deodorants use both male and female models to promote their products.

Sexism in my definition would be when given the same opportunity, when one gender is being paid or treated better than another gender, that would be sexism, because someone is being treated unfair.

What hypermac (the company in question) did was not wrong. They hired models who were for god's sake ready to do it. They were ready to accept money and stand nude on their product exhibit. It would have been unfair if they were treated unfair, or against their will, none of which had happened.

The real problem about women being objectified is that women are ready to be objectified - either for money or for some other form of compromise. This is the real problem. As long as such women exist, the product makers and corporations would obviously use them. So, if you want this to stop, you have to revolt when someone from your own gender (male/female) is ready to represent your gender infront of a public audience and accept to be objectified for money. Don't go after the corporation that hired them, instead ask these people why they let them objectify you, on behalf of you/your gender in the first place. This is the real problem.

I love the way that these rogue women go after men (and vice versa) only because they want an apology to feel superior and write a blog post about it.

I think it must have been a great marketing campaign for HyperMac and the guy was right - These people deserved no apology for this particular event and this particular event alone (please don't generalize this conclusion).

There's a great saying - Any publicity is good publicity. I hope these feminists realize this and stop fucking themselves up like this, publicly.

Yep, not many people respond to insults. But you actually gave an explanation as to why you didn't, to make yourself sound cooler. Bravo 'chuthiya' (you were the one who taught me this)

Andddd, next time, before you waste time insulting people on an international forum, try to use it constructively to atleast complete projects of people whose money you've taken promising them to complete it and you actually didn't. Makes more sense than replying to my comments, right?

1) He never called you an asshole. He just posted his views about DDG.

2) If you are offended by what he said, it doesn't give you the right to call him an asshole.

For example, I know many people whose projects you didn't complete on time and who think you are a rotten dick for rightly being one. But I didn't call you a rotten dick, did I?

And also, stop defending DDG like a pussy that's everywhere, dude.

"What we discovered about InstallMonetizer"

'We discovered that they are sneaky as fuck. But it's ok because we funded them.' - pg

For the rest of the community - See what withinrafael has to say in his comments below and how unethical this start-up is.

I for one, love YC. But such shitty tactics by start-ups and Paul defending them is terribly disappointing.

>I fail to see how it is brilliant.

This is why the guy who designed this Google+ plan (Vic Gundotra) is where he is (at Google) and you are still a commentator in a public forum. You need some long-term vision, bro.

This must be crazy - CEO, COO, Director of Product for a fucking Wordpress blog? are you kidding me?? Techcrunch at the end of the day is a Wordpress blog. It could be justified atleast if they were covering international news, but they are focused mostly on Start-up stuff (that too only the big guys) and mos, if not just Apple.

>Because straight up paying for downloads, or traffic, to a blog is insidious

Yeah right, biased, manipulative, colored, Apple-sponsored journalism isn't insidious, but paying for traffic is. Stop acting so surprised TC.

Your answer is vague, but I will try to be objective as much as possible.

>Well, I don't see any problem in plugging one's event in a blog post.

The problem here isn't plugging his own event in his post. The problem here is that he cites the successes of start-ups and links to it. That is un-ethical. He stands to benefit from it by falsely citing it as a valid example. Many people here on HN DO NOT know that he runs it. His intention was malicious, if not unethical.

>You want office space for free?

You are missing the bigger point - Offering office space for {insert rate here} is something that anyone can do and that doesn't make one a contributor to the start-up ecosystem, atleast not as much as to the proportions to which you blow it up.

> He hosts free events like Chennai OCC, Chennai geeks at the startup centre. Also the space is free if you want to host any free event.

I've heard of these events. One of my friends tells me about it. I've also heard horror stories about Vijayanand mocking young college guys interested in starting-up. I also heard from him that he isn't just the one behind it, there are a lot of active young minds involved.

>You know how much he charged for the office space for the period of six months? ZERO(because he wanted me to succeed and i was a recent college grad)

Your personal positive experience with him is best kept personal. Because we're talking about the rest of the Entrepreneurs from whom he collects money.

I understand your experience is so far positive with him. But, please don't try to dilute a valid argument using your individual opinion. I also understand that you have co-founded a company which you and Vijayanand have mutual interests in (like someone here commented). Please don't try to support him in public just for that reason - When someone is at wrong, it's best we let the others know about it, otherwise the purpose of such a vibrant community will be poisoned by such profit-motivated posts.

EDIT: Vijayanand has edited the link that went to his in50hrs programme. Maybe that's why you didn't notice it.

This explains you haven't read the article in its entirety. Please read it again, he references it as the first link while citing examples about the superiority within the Indian Start-up eco-system.

That is a contradiction in a way that you cannot promote something as a valid citation while you stand to benefit from it.

>Sidenote: Vijay Anand has done so much to Indian entrepreneurs and Indian startup ecosystem.

There are many people who have done more than him (I personally know a handful) yet, don't advertise it explicitly as much as he does. He takes money for providing an office space in return. How does that contribute as doing 'much' to the Indian Startup Ecosystem? There are plenty of office spaces over here...

Vijayanand is moderately infamous for sheepishly promoting his in50hrs event (it is a PAID event organized by him) under the guise of such shallow articles and also on twitter

(EDIT: I've been his follower for ages, he sometimes misleads people into buying tickets for the event, falsely advertising that it's going to be 'sold out' even when no one has actually signed up).