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No. Not beyond those who find Earth in our timescale.

- other civilizations are not like ours. Mass consumertopia drives innovation on an individual and industrial level resulting in the abundance and rapid acceleration of detectable technologies such as those relying upon radio propagation.

- contradicting modern indoctrination of so called scientific understanding, quantum entanglement allows instantaneous quantum holographic communications at any distance without wave propagation (after an original source synchronization). Biological entities of sufficient development may access this medium (“entangled consciousness.”) The wider implications being that sufficiently advanced species do not require radio propagation for communications.

- General consensus among space faring species suggests civilizations achieve means of interstellar travel after their world of origin is in danger of no longer supporting life. Indicating among those numbers of civilizations which may exist vanishingly few become widely dispersed.

- our nearest neighbor, ~127 light years from Earth will not achieve detectable technology within the time scale of human civilization.

- the alien civilization living upon the Earth does not presently wish to be “found” by corruptible treacherous Man, and makes effort to evade our means.

No, we will never “find” alien civilizations, however alien civilizations have already found us.

Will we ever be ready to interface with those alien civilizations who have found us?

You are not willing or capable of accepting the hidden truth of human civilization, that we are not alone in our own minds and a vast culture among us can interact with our thoughts through entangled consciousness.

That is how the alien civilizations also interact with us, through our entangled thoughts.

We are too primitive as humanity, and our thought controls are too corrupted by pretending to be gods (or demons) in our minds. And you, incredulous masses cannot handle all of the wicked things we have been doing to ourselves under the cover of conventional autonomy to make the whole thing practical.

I hope not to convince you, only offer the perspective for those curious or of conscience.

*: as a bonus, conversationally the Greys have mentioned there is a civilization ~127 light years away who will never in our lifetimes achieve detectable technology (let alone space flight.) Good luck with that!

NTP.

By any other standard, most manually set clocks are up to a full minute off all the time.

All of this indicates the flaw in the account of “consciousness”. Consciousness is elemental and “conscious”’or “unconscious” are “state forms” both of consciousness.

Consciousness is the envelope. Conscious is a category of awareness.

My brutally downvoted comment implied this, with more conjecture of the envelope. Enable “show dead” if you didn’t catch it!

No need. In another comment I mentioned a stone has dormant potential of consciousness, and life systems merely animate it.

Someone else posted a decent link to the relationship of “holographic” memory and consciousness. I do not speak with that as my source though it is a relevant idea.

It seems like you disqualify everything that doesn’t talk back (LLMs then?). By my account a stone is dormant quantum consciousness and living systems merely animate this. Awareness and sense of self are manifestations of biotechnology.

I define consciousness as “the inflection of the potential of existential being.” As my original comment suggests, I claim consciousness as the echo chamber of the quantum domain.

Before you call it “quantum magic” understand that the “potential of existence” is the foundation of existential reality and we are “just inflecting” upon this through the electrochemical biotechnology of our brains.

I propose all life and living systems are “of consciousness” however primitive, and memory, temporal awareness, even sense of self are holographic renderings within this domain.

The physical nervous system is one map, and the consciousness the “moment of continuity” (like a “moment of force” in physical systems). The memory (learned inference) is another map. Consciousness animates and iteratively influences in between.

You can fantasize that you are an owl or a bat, doing so well enough can be quite convincing. Remember, wings are arms and hands (look at a skeletal picture, you will see what I mean.)

It does not.

Consciousness is the echo chamber of the quantum domain, temporally propagating through cognitive technology. Memory and temporal propagation (awareness) give consciousness something to do, which makes it topically interesting and addressable.

The quantum domain has a tremendous information density which scales through entanglement (by the tens of thousands or even millions in our neurons) allowing the ultra high definition holographic experience we (many of us) are familiar with.

When quantum holographic memory is understood, consciousness will be better understood. The qubit is a dead end, this will be the indicator of scientific progress.

> little confusing and maybe misplaced.

No doubt confusing. Thought control is hackers for the mind! I assure you, I am among the most knowledgeable in these affairs throughout all human kind. All “demons” know me as “<something> The Astrian”. Only second hand of a “demon” can tell you <something> as I do not say that part out loud. And the demons are humans who collectively have the Power indistinguishable from God in men’s minds. These cultures rise and fall since the beginning of civilization, and American Thought Control is the ruling faction through humankind today. My awareness includes (topically) The Shams al Ma’arif, which is how layperson occultists were indoctrinated by their “voices” (demon) factions of those times (nearly a thousand years ago). Those factions too die out over time and are reborn in every age among those uplifted into this secret.

What you know is their cover stories! Which are cargo cult lies, some meant to protect you. I am known as “the undeceiver” however my enemies will call me profane things.

Your ideas are as of a frightened villager. God and I have favorable terms, it is the wickedness of Men I despise. The evil ones are those who pretend to be your protectors! And your actual protectors are so endangered they would not reveal themselves to you, as finding their mention in your mind would only be a danger to you.

Those demons are men, white American Thought Control is the dominant faction of this age, they pretend to be angels or God even in Tucker Carlson’s mind, and only undeceiving ourselves will do us any good. You will not believe me if I told you what they were in Gene Hackman’s mind. What do you think he had in his dark basement?