cyjyar

No, it's long term, but as mentioned above, to me it's more of a bet (I said "5 year plan" as a reference to rigid soviet top-down polocies).

You said "But as often China is capable of drawing a plan over 50 years and to execute it over that time frame". Can you give (multiple since you said "often") major 50 year plans, that China announced and then delivered on? I don't know all that much on that topic, and as I said before their most famous efforts at planning/reforming didn't turn out too good.

Ha, I missed the mark here. The comment I was replying to mentioned 'railways' and 'the west' so I was thinking of the American West. Older use-case, and for national/internal development. You are right that the Marshall Plan is a good equivalent example. But I think its thinking was more obvious: it's either us or the soviet, and also rebuilt economies had only one major economy to trade with. These gave the USA major leverage. I don't see it here, leverage is a lot lower.

The US developed organically, here it looks a bit more like a forced march. Not saying it cant work, but it looks more like a bet than a plan.

Also, the only "50 year plan" I can think of is Den Xiaopin opening the economy, and it went through because he was still powerful and alive until a few years ago. And it was more like a 30 year plan. Do you know many great long-term successes from them? Because they're more famous for things like the great leap forward.

This Chinese belt&road thing is a bit weird, as a project: it's unpopular at home, it's controversial in the target countries, it's had no real benefit so far, and also it's tremendously expensive while the Chinese economy is slowing down. It's like the Chinese gov thinks building new roads will expand the economy, but these things take time to get a ROI -- if they succeed at all.

It really feels like a soviet 5 year plan. Bureaucratic delusion.

Sadly all of those decentralized / federated app all have this same accessibility issue.

Maybe there is some sort of business case, or at least some preliminary solution to get there, that offers a middle ground between "you're only the customer of our SaaS" and "you have to be your own IT department"? something like a standardized cloud-ready deployment, where instead of only d/l the server side app, the site also points you to the cloud providers that also support that app (or this standard) so that you're just 3 clicks away from running your own instance.

That'd be nice, not sure it would pay for the team developing that standard though.