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I appreciate the authors thoughtful review here, but I can’t help but be frustrated by the constant lack of understanding of the core value proposition of framework both in this post and in many comments here on hn.

Frequently the author brings up that for 2,000 euros they expect a premium experience, but no where is there an evaluation of the value granted by upgradability and repeatability of the machine, and only briefly is there mention of the configurability.

People (not necessarily the author, but likely many commentators that make similar complains about the frameworks price) will lament how manufacturers don’t have upgradable ram, etc and then turn around and are upset at the bulkiness of a repairable laptop, or the price.

I think ultimately what frustrates me is that people don’t consider the ability to repair or upgrade your machine part of a “premium” experience, but that’s is just something I have to accept. I think it is unfortunate that our consumerist culture places so little value on it though.

Rergardless, what I feel like we see here (along with a lack of scale from a small company) is the core tradeoffs that we’d have to make to get back repairability, etc. framework certainly isn’t above criticism, but if you don’t care about these things then why look at this machine? A large established brand is always going to offer a a better value on the things you care about.

> Foreign countries have no obligation to admit you within their borders.

This is obviously a general statement about any nation, comparing the US to its peers.

In the context of the conversation it is clearly an argument that “we don’t have to let you in, we can require whatever we want, including trampling on your rights as an individual”, which is unamerican.

Most of the office apps sans excel are basically just the web apps though, office 365 for the most part is cross platform.

>Almost no fleets in the US are running majority CNG.

Most buses are diesel, and are transitioning to either battery electric or hydrogen fuel cell. Almost no fleets in the US are running majority CNG.

I’m well aware of the fact that these types of issues have been a part of the system for a long time, nowhere in my string of comments did I indicate that this was an issue of one administration nor one party, I was simply commenting on the case under discussion.

As an American I am not responsible for the actions of another nation, but I am for those of my own. Therefore it is immaterial to me how Korea treats immigrants, at least not when I am discussing the morality of our system.

Either you have a sense of what is right and wrong when it comes to our fellow human beings or you don’t. Feel free to criticize the actions of the Korean government if you want, that does not absolve the US of its own transgressions.

I see your concern, and taking what you’re asserting here as a given for the purposes of this conversation, I’d agree it needs to be addressed.

However, it should be addressed at the corporate level, not by targeting the individual workers. They are just doing their jobs under the direction of their employers. Any fraud committed here is by the Hyundai corporation first and foremost.

The treatment of these workers has been exceedingly cruel and should be considered out of bounds in this country, but sadly it has become normalized.

Upgrading the main board is the last thing on my list for considering framework.

Being able to easily make small swaps like ports/batteries/RAM/etc is a much bigger value prop, along with supporting the growth of an ecosystem that still doesn’t have enough scale to get pricing down.

If you don’t value any of that, then yeah, don’t buy a framework. But to say it “makes no sense” is a bit grandiose.

I would pose that question back to you, if it isn’t measurable, how are you certain that it is affecting the bottom line?

> Since these departments do not directly drive profits, there's no visible bottom line to make meaningful observations on.

“Bottom line” is a reference to costs, it doesn’t matter whether a department is a profit center. If AI is making these departments more efficient, it should show up in the bottom line.

That’s a joint venture with two American manufacturers (and Daimler trucks North America itself was an American company it bought out), it’s not a realistic comparison.

As a former R studio user and current VS code user, I downloaded this… then I realized there’s no WSL support and realized it’ll have to wait.

For reference I’m on a small Data Eng/analyst team.

You can get an ounce of weed for $20 in Oregon right now.

For reference, that will get you and your friends absolutely blasted for way more than a single evening.