codeflow2202

Sonnet3.5 is still a million times better than 4o

It seems that someone has convinced many of you (on HN) that negotiations with Russia would inevitably lead to an attack on NATO countries within Europe. As a result, some now feel justified in mocking or harassing those who believe that continuing a seemingly unwinnable war—at the cost of thousands of European lives—is not the best course of action. Ironically, this stance was widely held by left-leaning individuals not long ago.

What disgusts me isn’t the fear of a potential Russian attack, but how easily people can be manipulated into reversing their beliefs while still considering themselves morally righteous, and feel justified into mocking and silencing people holding their past ideology.

I've seen the decline in Italy of young people going out in the evening to meet new people. They are all buffed with splendid livers, but barely get laid, and spend most of their time playing monopoli and drinking tea.

This is often false. Many people following this way of eating are still sick, weak, and often skinny fat. I was one of them. Of course this is going to be better than a McDonald diet, but it does a terrible job at fixing problems for people with any kind of metabolic problems.

Younger persons don't have the knowledge and wisdom to assess what previous generations did. Their own thoughts sounds more like pre-conceived, propaganda driven, ready made sentences. (I know because I have been there and only know realize how dumb and manipulable I was, and probably still are. At least now I can see it).

As time passes the environment, morals and the goals of a population can change drastically, and its behavior is attuned by those variables.

Anyone born in the boomer generation would probably have behaved exactly like them, for the good and the bad.

The professors in that article might be speaking like that, making amend to the young, but deep inside every generation thinks to be smarter than the previous and the successive ones.

You are supposing that recipes were passed down through books which is totally false. They were passed down in families and communities and were based to what was available at the time. Meat is more prevalent in recipes coming from regions where it was more available. Some other places have instead a fish based diet. In any way animal based food has always been preferred by every culture that didn't avoid it for religious reasons. Most cultures who have a plant based diet come from a recent past of extreme poverty and food deprivation.

EDIT: Of course as soon as meat got available, recipes that were before only affordable by a small circle, got picked up by a larger share of the population.

Gonna cite myself:

"People from the anglosphere comes with their own idea of health, which is for the most part originated by their past religious idea of purity more than rock solid science. Many of them can't accept studies which prove that a good life can sometimes also come out from what they view as a "sinful" behavior.

Old Italians never saw meat eating and alcohol consumption as a negative aspect of life and enjoyed it just because it was part of their culture.

And, against all these calvinist principles, they still enjoyed a pretty long life."

Thanks, I have admit that imagining an early 1900 shepherd "following a fad diet" made me laugh.

To be exact the ones putting money into meat replacements aren't produce farmers but the processed food giants.

People from the anglosphere comes with their own idea of health, which is for the most part originated by their past religious idea of purity more than rock solid science.

Many of them can't accept studies which prove that a good life can sometimes also come out from what they view as a "sinful" behavior.

Old Italians never saw meat eating and alcohol consumption as a negative aspect of life and enjoyed it just because it was part of their culture.

And, against all these calvinist principles, they still enjoyed a pretty long life.

This hypothesis is still part of some anti-meat propaganda. They start from the idea that red meat is bad, and then they retroactively try to adjust their "science" with creative solutions. Research done in Italy about the Sardinians showed that the people who got to live longer where specifically the shepherds. They had a very peculiar life style which brought them to get much more exercise and to eat more animal sourced foods. The remaining townfolks had a more "average" lifespan even though they shared the same genes.