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I don't know about "lot more necessary". The images are one part of the equation especially to meet various regulations. There is a ton to running a large scale service especially if you are the service that the people who are posting how wicked smart they are at k8 service runs on. Google found that out yesterday when they said "oh hey people expect support maybe we should charge". That is not new for grown ups.

The cloud existed before k8 and k8's creator has a far less mature cloud than AWS or Azure.

But this thread has convinced me of one thing. It's time to re-cloak and never post again because even though the community is a cut above some others at the end of the day it's still a bunch of marks and if you know the inside it is hard to bite your lip.

It's sold as a service because it drives compute. Compute is one of the top money makers. The more people who buy into things like k8 that are essentially VM deployment launchers the better. The providers aren't emotional about this like 90% of the posters here. If a new flavor of the week gets people to launch VMs next year then that will be sold.

" But the success of US tech companies is certainly notable."

One of the funniest statements ever following an assertion of empiricism.

The left's idea of "leading" is always amusing. The left in the socialist paradises in Europe will keep depending on US technology and posting on sites created by US innovation. At least until they depend maybe on China and then they won't even have the choice to practice evading their own country's speech laws.

The leftists in the US will just keep abusing the privileges they are afforded by those who keep them in luxury because that's just what they do. The system is good to them that way.

I'll now go "wage slave" so I can afford to travel to places that produce old buildings you visit.

Some of my favorite themes here.

1) People asserting that the court was right or wrong followed by some "argument". The court simply ruled. Anything beyond that is the same as people who use statistics to provide "evidence" about their preconceived notions.

2) Examples that mean one thing to someone and something else to another but both sides claim right or wrong. See 1. For fun, I'll do an example but not claim it proves something. Most well known professional wrestlers work for a tyrant. Until very recently when another billionare entered the game they didn't have a lot of choices. Just like uber drivers they are mostly told what to do and even have sold their real names. They can also be seriously injured and die just like uber drivers. They also are "independent" contractors. Despite those odds, some did leave and became well known outside of that tyrant's world and are now getting richer than ever before...Would any of the events above including the new billionare deciding they could compete by picking up those independent minded wrestlers ever have happened if they were employees all along?

3)Portrayal of evil corps and the downtrodden who are forced to serve them as stereotypical "underclass" victims. If you are in Redmond soon and you take an Uber don't be surprised if you are being driven around by a PM who is getting out of the house or trying to get an extra edge against the high cost of living there.

My personal feeling here is I do not care either way. What I care about is from the consumer standpoint that Uber is accountable. My primary dislike of Uber, Airbnb, Vroom or similar enterprises is that they all claim to be of one stripe when things are going well but when things go wrong the company claims "Oh that's not us it is this entity we represented as part of the process but who we disclaim any responsibility for". As others have pointed out all the major tech companies use contractors. I don't know of any that would get away with the "oh that's not really us" defense.

I am grateful for Stallman's efforts but claiming cloud is a nefarious plot no matter the style is not "legit".

As for the voting, join the club. Like all communities online HNN is an often hypocritical cliquefest where the mob will have its way. But at least it's not r ;)

My bad. A clever marketing decision made me see the capital SQL as SQL Server since I am used to people saying Postgres, MySQL or SQL.

Sorry for technical tangent but curious. Your decision making on GCP appears to appeal to best of breed + cost. But you put SQL Server on AWS? If you are saying SQL Server is better on AWS than on Azure it would be interesting to learn why.

I'm not sure any provider appearing to capitalize on a momentary pricing decision is a great idea. All are too big and things change too fast for any crowing as if anything is a long term decision.

Replies on another thread by alleged Google employees appear to indicate they are learning on the fly that doing support matters and costs money.

There are a lot of comments from people wanting free things. You may get those things for a while but it won't last. Free only works for so long in anything no matter how hard that is for some people to figure out across all aspects of life.

I think you are saying you want the industry to be better. I support that. But until we get there, the need for people who can airdrop is going to be there. Sometimes you may be dealing with a fortune 50 like customer with lots of $$$ in play or a smaller customer who needs to get something running or they are in deep trouble of going under. It's not so much about looking inwards sometimes as it is about helping customers who depend on the crap that was built to get past the bugfest the industry seems comfortable selling all to often.

If I take your comment to mean collaborating is good and some people are better than others at parts of a solution because they are currently specialized I agree. The "right" answer is often difficult in practice especially when you depend on many other teams as dependencies and need to get something out the door.

On the other hand if you're drawing diagrams of things you haven't personally made sure could work well together at even a trivial POC level then I am not a fan because that is precisely why some devs hate anyone who is called an Architect.

Bonus points for understatement in title that caught me at just right time to lol.

Will skip reading comments because I know some k8 fan boy or some other type of religious enthusiast will insist all of it is solved.