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Well, if you grow by outsourcing and don't include the rising emissions of countries outsourced to, you are deluding yourself

> You imply that it won't.

How? Though, I am certain that it won't grow indefinitely on earth.

> I don't see a fundamental reason why humans would stop at 8 billion

It can stop at 9 billion and still not grow indefinitely. Currently a peak of 11 billion and no more than 12 billion is estimated. As said. Because of increased living standards.

> To keep total consumption constant, avg. consumption per person needs to decrease proportionally to the increase of the number of people.

It better to decrease proportionally with a coefficient smaller than 1 and bigger than 0 than decrease consumption not at all.

> Not a real counter-argument.

Yes, it is, because it implies a logical fallacy.

Degrowth doesn't imply that.

You imply that population will increase indefinitely (max peak expected at 12 billion actually) or that degrowth needs to happen forever.

Further you imply population development increases if degrowth is applies.

Also, slippery slope argument.

Cycle instead of public transport/car

Not it doesnt't, unless the Protocol itself is responsible for the UX.

In groups you do the same: send a photo message to every group member

Matrix is a protocol, not an App

I am really desperate for an alternative.

Seems like someone doesn't like the truth

Nobody knows that except amazon and signal.

Would be interesting to know if Amazon could reconstruct that information without Signals knowledge

No investigation necessary.

The information can be obtained in an automated way.