cato_the_elder

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"Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin."
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Comment · 4 years ago
Well, I object to this for multiple reasons.

First of all, it would be nice of you to at least looked at the responses to this comment, and reminded users that many of those are explicitly against HN guidelines (which is objectively true, with comments like just "What on earth?" [1], and my comment is essentially stating an opinion clearly acceptable in e.g. Singapore, and I know one of your goals on HN is to not be completely US-centric). Browbeating is clearly not what HN is for, and IMO allowing it would cause a lot more damage than allowing accounts primarily used for politics. Curious political discussion has some real content, browbeating doesn't.

Secondly, the effect of that policy is to essentially ban accountants with unpopular political opinions on one side of the spectrum (because people don't want to associate it with their normal work, for obvious reasons). One evidence for this is that you've probably banned more accounts on one side of political spectrum with that rationale. That should be easy to check, since the politics of accounts which use HN primarily for politics should be quite clear from their commenting history. I'm not accusing you of personal conscious bias against right-wingers in moderation here, I'm just pointing out that policy would result in more of them getting banned, since more of them have no choice but to try to conceal their identity (due to "consequences" at work, etc.). Remember what happened to Brendan Eich?

Thirdly, I disagree with your characterization of my comments as "ideological battle". I'm merely stating my political opinions, I have tried to never escalate into personal attacks, and I have tried to always add something concrete and interesting to the discussion, along the HN'a norm of intellectual curiosity. To me, ideological "battle" would imply the kind of dogmatic political rallying I got in response to my comment.

Finally, it seems that you are banning my account on a first strike. I don't remember having any previous negative interaction with the mods.

P.S. After posting this, I also noticed that you have "shadow banned" me, in the sense that my comment looks completely normal to myself when logged in, but I can't find a trace of it when logged out. That's an unethical practice in my books, and something that you have explicitly stated that you reserve for spammers and serial trolls [2].

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32544213

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30342925

Comment · 4 years ago
This is super cool! Based on this, the most popular CS textbook is (of course) CLRS. For physics, it's Halliday. And for calculus, it's Stewart, a demonstrably suboptimal choice.
Comment · 4 years ago
> This class of disruption can be worked around using VPN services, which are able to circumvent government internet censorship measures.

Well, here's something for people who insist all VPN services are a "scam". VPNs play an important role by circumventing censorship in countries with more network level internet censorship.

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Yes, because it's the country where I live in, and I (like most other people) care about my culture.
Comment · 4 years ago
Well, the institution of marriage is older than the nation state. So, it's independent existence is within the realm of possibility.

I agree that it's a vague proposition in our era though. I'm just saying that it's not completely unreasonable.

Comment · 4 years ago
Yet again, that's irrelevant. I think the point we are debating here is universality of heterosexuality/heteronormativity.
Comment · 4 years ago
> If the state should be free to choose, it should be free to choose, not be limited by the constitutional text.

I'm making a distinction between the state and the government. The state also includes people who write and interpret the constitution.

> You'll have to explain how gay people being allowed to visit their loved ones on their death beds as a culture war against "the population" though.

I'm not sure why would you think I'd be against that.

> not some subset that you happen to like

It's not just some subset, it's the overwhelming majority.

Comment · 4 years ago
If by gay you mean MSM, that's correct. But if you mean males wanting to marry each other, that's debatable.
Comment · 4 years ago
> So you'd be ok with government subsidisation of polygamy?

In the cultures which approve of it? It's none of my business. In my own country, no.

Comment · 4 years ago
Not really, probably most people around the world have ancestors from different cultures and ethnicities.

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