camdencheek

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Comment · 2 years ago
Oh, we do also heavily parallelize. This blog post is just focusing on the single-core perf.
Comment · 2 years ago
From the mouth of this post's author: yes.
Comment · 2 years ago
Comment · 2 years ago
AFAICT, that still doesn't support 8-bit integer dot product? (To clarify, I was using int8 to mean 8-bit integer, not 8-byte)
Comment · 2 years ago
Comment · 2 years ago
I did consider Avo! I even went as far as to implement a version using Avo since it has a nice dot product example I could use as a starting point. But ultimately, for as small as these functions are, I felt that Avo was an unnecessary extra layer to grok. Additionally, it's x86-only, and I knew in advance I'd want to implement an ARM version as well since we also do some embeddings stuff locally.

If I were to ever take this further and add loop unrolling or something, I'd absolutely reach for Avo

Comment · 3 years ago
Thanks for the feedback!

> Will that end up on Github?

It's already there! I just haven't cut a release since the change.

> Most often I want to return just the first error.

In many cases, I do too, which is why (*pool).WithFirstError() exists :)

> original errors can be inspected as intended

If you're using errors.Is() or errors.As(), error inspection should still work as expected.

> Often goroutine overhead is negligible and I would bound concurrency in dumber ways

Yes, definitely. And that's what I've always done too. However, I've found it's surprisingly easy to get subtly wrong, especially when modifying code I didn't write, and even more especially if I want to propagate panics (which I do, though that seems to be a somewhat controversial opinion in this thread). Conc is intended to be a well-known pattern that I don't have to think about too much when using it.

> I think(?) conc does that too, but it could use documentation

It does! I'll update the docs to make that more clear.

Comment · 3 years ago
> nice work

Thanks!

> The default concurrency GOMAXPROCS is almost never what I want.

FWIW, the default concurrency has been changed to "unlimited" since the 0.1.0 release.

> Aggregated errors are almost never what I want.

Out of curiousity, what do you want? There is an option to only keep the first error, and it's possible to unwrap the error to an array of errors that compose it if you just want a slice of errors.

> Using it would place a burden on any reader that isn't familiar with the library

Using concurrency in general places a burden on the reader :) I personally find using patterns like this to significantly reduce the read/review burden.

Comment · 3 years ago
Fair criticism. The nice thing about the current API is it works with any input that's iterable (channels, slices, readers, etc.) and any output (callback, channel, append to slice, etc.). In most code I write, I avoid channels because I find them easy to misuse. I used channels in the examples because it's the easiest way to represent "some potentially unbounded stream of input."
Comment · 3 years ago
> panics aren't "goroutine scoped" in terms of their potential impact

I'm with ya there. However, there are also many classes of logic errors that are not goroutine-scoped. And there are many panics that do not have impact outside of the goroutine's scope. In my experience, this is true of most panics.

In practice, panics happen. They are (almost) always indicative of a bug, and almost always mean there is something that needs fixed. However, if a subsystem of my application is broken and panicking, there's a pretty good chance that reporting the panic without crashing the process will provide a better end user experience than just blowing up.

Yes, that means I'm accepting the risk that my application is left in an inconsistent state, but coupled with good observability/reporting, that's a tradeoff I'm willing to make.

(bonus: this is especially true when propagating panics allow me to capture more debugging information to fix the panics faster)

Comment · 3 years ago
> run different things in the background and gather the results in different ways

I'd be curious to see an example of the type of task you want to be able to do more safely

Comment · 3 years ago
> The WaitGroup looks suspiciously like errgroup

I heavily used errgroup before creating conc, so the design is likely strongly influenced by that of errgroup even if not consciously. Conc was partially built to address the shortcomings of errgroup (from my perspective). Probably worth adding a "prior art" section to the README, but many of the ideas in conc are not unique.

> In go land, this seems desirable.

I mostly agree, which is why `Wait()` propagates the panic rather than returning it or logging it. This keeps panics scoped to the spawning goroutine and enables getting stacktraces from both the spawning goroutine and the spawned goroutine, which is quite useful for debugging.

That said, crashing the whole webserver because of one misbehaving request is not necessarily a good tradeoff. Conc moves panics into the spawning goroutine, which makes it possible to do things like catch panics at the top of a request and return a useful error to the caller, even if that error is just "nil pointer dereference" with a stacktrace. It's up to the user to decide what to do with propagated panics.

Comment · 3 years ago
Whoops, yep, thanks for pointing it out. Just fixed it
Comment · 3 years ago
Nope, just a catchy short form of "concurrent"

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