californiaguy2

I wasn't trying to be cool, I was answering his question in a straight forward and honest manner. Other people seem to be more interested in trying to blow smoke up his ass talking about interesting problem domains and how money doesn't matter.

Anyone who claims that money is an adjunct and doesn't work in academia or charity is bullshitting not only who they're talking to, but themselves as well.

Sure you did, you mentioned elance didn't you?

Good, reliable programmers are very expensive. Think $200k/year minimum.

This might not have entered into your vision of reality but I assure you that's how it works. If you keep getting shafted by cheap programming "talent" and keep looking for more, you might just be a fucking idiot.

> It's how America doesn't produce anything anymore.

This article is about an American company that produces equipment that makes solar panels and microchips.

Every time I've thought about using Twisted for something, I go back to their documentation and remember why I wrote it myself with asyncore last time.

Stop the madness. Just stop it.

I think I admire Ellison more.

"We want someone who is passionate enough to spend the weekend working on something cool"

Tell them you want more cash and equity for your hard work. If they don't give it to you, quit.

Why are you putting yourself through this torture?

At the risk of sounding crude, I experimented with all sorts of drugs and sex in college, but the best high I've found yet is scoring business.

Maybe I am a money loving robot, but that's my position on the matter.

> I stayed up for 3 days without sleep to implement this thing

You probably could have done it in 2 days if you had slept.

This is what I've always done.

Are there really people out there who feel the need to explain themselves to carwash attendants and waiters???

This story has so many missing pieces it's not even worth reading.

What I want to know is who's the engineer he suckered into getting his first codebase up and running?