budman1

s/ditched/expertly landed on an improvised water runway/

But there is a lot of software in aviation. And it is slow to develop, and expensive. And it has defects.

In general, it is of high quality.

Try again. Commercial aviation, with people on board going between point A and point B.

That 2nd pilot makes up for lot's of impossible branches in the fault tree.

But, at this point in history, they are paying through the nose. As they say.

Cut dev salaries by a factor of 3, and then it would be normal.

I love that analogy "take a telescope to a fruit bearing tree, point at the roots and say look its sucking out all the nutrients from the soil."

But, can we say that H1B and immigration is what fueled the current boom. Or maybe it just went along for the ride.

I read that MS was looking to supply some of the 'load bearing' material for the Arch.

Middle america is full of experienced EE's making $100K a year. After 20 years at the same company.

And they are good at it.

O-1 is a strictly regulated visa. Limited to Nobel Prize winners, Influencers, and Underwear models.

H1B is for cheap java devs.

thanks for the insightful reply.

It does impact H1B abuse. How the pipeline works:

#1. Young, eager tech employee from India enrolls in Masters program at US mid-tier university.

#2. Completes course work with 90% other students from India in Florida, Texas, or California.

#3. Gets internship job as part of OPT. (Optional Practical Training)

#4. After 1 (or 2 years for STEM), employer puts in for H1B.

#5. After a round or two of H1B, employer starts the PERM process for a green card.(Tough journey for someone from India... I agree)

Young techie is now 32 years old. Perhaps they marry a US Citizen, and a different pathway opens up. Perhaps they transition to a "genius visa" and then have a different pathway. Perhaps the US government changes policy. It takes a long time but you are living and working in the US during the whole experience.

Stopping this path breaks the chain. If there is no path to citizenship, even a long one, then H1B will stop being so attractive.

Note the pathway for foreign students has been closed. Check on the MS program enrollments at most mid tier schools. Down 50%, 70%, 95%....

look harder.

amazon is paid up until the end of the year. they funded the 'bezos toilet' in the ballroom.

unsavory, yes. stolen a bit strong.

I would argue that they are substantially different in definition, but blurred together in practice.

Computer Science is a science. It is not focused on building things; rather on learning things.

The "dot com boom" and subsequent 25 years had such an employment need that everything turned into "programming means FAANG means I am rich"

Business Data Processing and Management Information Systems is more applicable to a majority of the 'software engineers' today.

I suspect it was statics and dynamics (2 courses), heat transfer, electrical circuit theory (2 courses), differential equations, and complex variables. Along with some pre-reqs.

In the past it was not uncommon for every 'engineering' degree to require the basic sophomore level classes for mechanical and electrical engineering. (inThePast = years<1990)