bubblegumcrisis

There was a comic book about comic books I read when I was young. I believe it was "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art" - part of it dealt with what is gained and lost with realism.

In a nutshell, (with my memory of 30-40 years), the more and more realistic a scene becomes, the less the brain applies it to ourself. It becomes this definite place, definite person, rather than ourself or our surroundings projected into other characters.

All these scenes, that I guess are amazing, they all are creepy to me.

I watched all of that video, it was really good.

For testing sake, even if you don't believe it - try posting a few comments with this idea (in your own words) - and be very civil.

The AI industry's mass theft of artwork is a crime that should be punished. The perpetrators, those directing this action, should lose everything. They should be left in perpetual debt as payment for their theft from the rest of society. This is just like 2008, when all of the oligarchy controlling the banks pillaged the rest of society, and got off with no real consequence. What we have is a few, probable psychopaths, injuring the masses for their own gain.

Try posting that on a high visibility story relating to the AI industries ethics. See what happens.

You will surely be down-voted - that's fine - [even though, for me, this opinion seems like a no-brainer, is it that crazy?] - (this comment might affect your account? not sure) -- The question, is it "disappeared."

Let me know.

Maybe post two comments about it, maybe in different stories, and ask people that respond with bewilderment to post twice as well.

Btw, I found out a few days ago HN censors comments. Not just down voting, but if you say something they HN finds offensive it disappears.

Interesting - yes, Epstein glasses. Hmm.. Pervert glasses, epstein glasses, pervert glasses, Epstein glasses. Pervstein glasses? <looks at coffee>, <looks outside>, <wonders why this world is so dumb>, <wonders when the revolution will come>

This really explains a lot. Whenever I see all the fan boys for Waymo and Apple (strangely people on this board like apple-vendor-lock-in) - and I think to myself, "who are these people, where is the 'rage against the machine' that typified the software industry pre-facebook"

So strange.

I had this weird epiphany this year - you know the Jan 6th - you know how the republicans refused to impeach Trump. I just couldn't wrap my head around the fact they would let someone potentially trying to kill them off the hook.

And then it dawned on me - they were in on it. If they were in on it, everything makes perfect sense. It's the simplest solution.

But it was such a leap for me.

All of the "obviously paid for bot comments" on this site. I always thought - they just slip through - but actually, the simplest solution is that this site is propagating a narrative.

So weird. And so gross. Where did the idealism of the tech industry go? "Don't be evil," they said.

How do you tell which comments were flagged?

There are three.

The first starts with: Thanks for your response. The second starts with: Hey, do me a favor And the third starts with: I had no idea HN censors

If you can see all three - then you can also see the censorship by starting a private browser and looking at this story.

There will only be the second and the third.

I've tested in private sessions on firefox and safari and through a few different ip proxies.

I'm going to do some testing in other stories/comments to see whether they detect words, or general sentiment. And I'll get some statistics on if this is predictable censorship, a one time deal, or whether I just hit a race condition in their code somewhere.

I had no idea HN censors comments. As in they don't exist at all. This explains a lot actually. I mean, they censored for ideas, not bad language. I didn't write anything accusatory or mean towards you, or towards anyone in particular - just purely for the ideas one of my comments to you doesn't exist. So weird.

Hey, do me a favor - can you reply to this and say, just "yes" if you can see it. If you can see my other reply, could you say "yes 2" - thanks

Thanks for your response.

Do you think if you had worked on this for years (I understand that this is hypothetical), would you feel about the same?

I find it strange - I mean, in the past it would be: you work on something, you give it away for free, people use it, and probably give code back. Now, it's: you work on something, you give it away for free, an agent reads it and clones it, you never get anything.

30 something years ago, I was an intern in meeting at a software company, and some guy had put some code on the internet that did this very specific thing they wanted - something to do with instrumenting code - they blatantly stole it. But they at least felt bad, and some people were pretty annoyed, that guy who did the stealing, I think he was eventually fired.

Now, companies can be one removed, "we didn't steal, we transmogrified." Or, "Hey claude, could you take this idea and implement it to run our hardware."

I feel like, the "original sin", the "fruit of the poisonous tree" has to be reconciled.

The people directly involved in the decision to steal with abandon - they should lose everything - maybe their creation might live on, but they personally should go to infinite debt.

It's like the 2008 financial crisis - the oligarchs on the tops of those banks should have been destroyed.

Oh well, sigh.

Very interesting - I have a tangential question.

What motivated you decide to release this. OpenAI or Anthropic will just hoover it up, maybe scale it up and use it if they are interested.

You probably won't know if they do, and the chance they will give you something back is near zero. Why did you release rather than try to scale and build yourself?

(I've been working on some thing, not similar, but not dissimilar in goal - and I just can't get over the fact that tech will steal without giving back)

Here's a take on this. What if OpenAI is like Uber.

Uber comes in, destroys competition using venture capital, promises a utopia for drivers and riders - then - when the time is right, they use the hollowed landscape to charge more and control the market.

Maybe, it's not so smart to trust tech psychopaths when they say everything will "be better when we take over."