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Right, because all of the plastics used in these labs are made from renewable sources?

A barrel of oil is a barrel of oil.

It's delusional, somehow many people have convinced themselves that further abstracting food production with whatever novelty "lab" technology (which by definition require more energy input, necessitate increased resource extraction, etc.) is the solution to environmental challenges instead of an act of doubling down on their causes.

Or, to take the pessimistic view, it might be the case that many individuals in these industries realize this and simply see emergent capital flows they can tap into.

Replacing these "antiquated" methods with extensive supply chains (even more) dependent on non-renewable resource extraction doesn't seem like using technology "for good"

If you don't understand "capital", you're probably punching above your weight anyway.

> I think it's best to avoid talking about truth, when trying to do philosophy. Just do the reasoning, and draw some conclusions if you can.

Yes, let's throw all of epistemology into the trash

It's very funny to imagine the mental gymnastics you performed to confidently conclude that a person who has lived in the South must be confusing it with the Midwest

I would be generally suspicious of people who are telling you that no one is out to get you and that your own observations are wrong.

And where does the pollution caused by natural gas extraction fit into this comparison?

> So, we ramp down our energy use by a couple of orders of magnitude.

> That's not going to happen.

It'll need to happen in order for the escalating effects of climate change to be curbed to any meaningful extent. The focus on renewables and other abstractions away from fossil fuels is a distraction from this fact.

> oil rich nations can just locally use and trade their energy

Sure, but the point is that local demand wouldn't be anywhere near the demand of the global market currently

Methane dissipates in the atmosphere within ~12 years, CO2 takes hundreds to thousands of years.

> One could picture a future earth where most of the open space is preserved for the wild, and us humans live in and around our cities.

I'm curious what your vision of "the wild" is and why humans are excluded from it?

> Yup, insect farms typically use grains as the feed. Grains which you could eat directly (after baking or cooking, of course) which would be more calorically efficient.

Black soldier fly larvae can be fed almost any organic matter, including waste. The use of grain as feed for insect farms (which can largely be attributed to grain subsidies) doesn't imply it's the end-all energy input.