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Yeah, it's even invaded the more obscure subreddits. Some posters try to shoehorn in political commentary even when it doesn't have much to do with the topic. I doubt there are even real humans behind some posts.

In other words, "it's the economy, stupid"

(That phrase was used by James Carville to help Bill Clinton get elected in 1992)

I distinctly remember the mindset of HN that the second comment linked describes, that Meta was doomed. Then many started cheering it on because they wanted Twitter to fail. Neither of which has happened so far.

I think HN users (myself included) have a blind spot for general social trends. We're technologists, not tastemakers.

> Text posts appear similar to Instagram Stories

Seems more of an Instagram replacement than a Twitter one, the userbase of Instagram is also closer to TikTok than Twitter.

Just because Facebook may potentially create their own app store doesn't mean others are going to use it. Even on Android, sideloading is fraught with warnings that the average older Facebook user might not figure it out.

Personally I'm looking forward to easier iOS sideloading, even if regulation was required to achieve it. Devices should be secure by design against malware, not by curation.

> Maybe a company can actually do a genuinely decent thing every once in a while

Sure. But I have zero confidence, based on previous actions, that company is Facebook/Meta.

> There was a proposed change about six months or a year ago, but it was walked back after public criticism.

Was that change ever walked back? I recall that Whatsapp wanted to send metadata (not the messages themselves, but phone numbers, IP addresses, etc) to Facebook/Meta for advertising purposes. I know it was delayed, but I deleted my Whatsapp account before having to accept the new terms.

I share your sentiment. I use Twitter for business and Instagram (before I deleted it) for friends. I follow very different accounts on each. I'm not going to mix business and pleasure so to speak, especially with Meta's poor privacy reputation.

And for people who have strong negative opinions on Musk, most of them hate Zuckerberg too. For them, Threads might have a better chance if it was a non-Meta product.

> experience of working on a film or television series that is underbid, understaffed, subject to unreasonable, inflexible deadlines, and endless directorial nitpicking: "pixel fucked"

This feels like working for a video game company. People overworked, underpaid, and doing it for the love of the creative arts and working on a name brand project. Similar things have happened at Electronic Arts.

Intelligent enough to create a grift selling subscriptions to the "Real World" featuring rehashed low-quality dropshipping/crypto/copywriting content, sure. That's not even how he made his money but teaching how to launder money through casinos and adult webcam businesses probably wouldn't work out legally. I have younger friends who are into him so had to do research to see if they weren't getting fleeced.

I wouldn't put him in the same category as the other three men mentioned who deliver value for free.

> But let's never forget that we were and can be allies.

Can you share some examples? Honest question, I've never seen this happen in modern day America (it's usually just one side taking and taking instead of give and take).

Based on what you wrote the men's circles you talk about were probably influenced by Sterling Institute, Mankind Project, and the mythopoetic men's movement. I've attended related events in the distant past but I was much too young to "get it" (and honestly still don't get some of it coming from an immigrant family viewpoint).

Men's rights have been denigrated to the point my younger male (Western) friends are Andrew Tate fans because there isn't anything else left.

How is it worse? From a privacy perspective they're both terrible and the data flows to the same Meta servers, but Facebook demands you use your real name (and demands photo ID if it thinks it's fake) while Instagram doesn't care.

It would be interesting to see Facebook Groups divorce from Facebook itself. Maybe allow people to login using an Instagram or Whatsapp identity, or better yet an independent login.

I don't really want my group activity to be linked to my Facebook identity for tracking/advertising purposes.

Parent commenter is talking about (banned) conservative subs, not r/conservative specifically.

And yes there is a difference, there was a "Never Trump" movement led by conservatives which obviously wouldn't have been popular on places like r/the_donald. It's not a giant monolithic block.

> The abuse is directed at everyone; no matter what opinion you share, no matter who you are, you will be verbally abused in a variety of ways.

Yeah, this is what people misunderstand about 4chan. Obviously my race gets a lot of flak, but I've even seen racial slurs about white Europeans I've never heard anywhere else.

I'm not saying it's morally right, but it feels more of a hazing tactic than legitimate hatred. Once you pass that filter you have access to some interesting information.