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Hard agree. My anecdotal experience: me and my friend group have math/coding contest national level background. We loved coding. All of us now devastated and consider retirement/different profession People who was there for the benefits (no offense, pretty valid reason) are happy now

I declined manager position multiple times, now I am forced to it

And no, I can't code without agents as a hobby anymore. As a rational person, I feel like this is just useless nowdays. Huge part of the fulfilment that it was the most optimal way to solve the problem. Now I feel like I do useless work

Team of software engineers also can't send rocket to the moon. I don't get your point

I obviously implied code related problems. I know agent can't change a diaper or born a child, lol

Lol what? It definitely was. Gathering requirements is not hard, it is just boring and time consuming

If it wasn't hardest part, why pay so much to swe?

What techical problems agent can't solve exactly?

Agent solve problems, you provide context

It's funny how people produce tons of code they can't even read and somehow feel like they "solved the problem". Do you feel like you built the shed when you hire carpenter and ask him to do it..?

And why school district need you when any highschooler can produce similar code..?

I think this is not "parallel universe". Selection bias: people who love to code often choose non trivial frontier work. They tend to grirf about agentic workflow the most. Myself included.

Russia will most likely migrate/mirror to asian data centers. Is it bad or good for the west? I would say bad. China would become even stronger in a long term

I cant determine whether this comment is metairony or not..?

"The goal had always been" - who's goal? Company? Employee? Humanity? I didn't get your point. I enjoyed certain type of work and now it's dead. I still can be relevant doing much less enjoyable work.

>In this context AI is nothing but good news, with proper attitude and skill it helps achieving the goal better, faster.

It is good news if you are in a lower spectrum of technical literacy. What AI did is significantly lower requirement for hard skills for problem solving. Before AI gap between smart and experienced dev and smart junior was gigantic, not it is almost non-existing. If you consider yourself good programmer, you are now way less valuable

>we need understanding of the tech-stack atleast in general

Yes, but i am ~10 years beyond that point. I have solid computer science background, and i feel like anything above that now waste of my time, because i can just ask LLM and apply my fundamental cs knowledge. It might sounds fun for someone, but for me it is not challenging

I am MLOps in a big tech company. My work is tightly coupled with training and online inferencing SOTA LLM's. Doesn't change anything in the equation

Came to the same conclusion as your point number one. Yes, i don't love my job anymore. It is painful, but... most of the people living like this their whole life and i was blessed to do what i love. And i still have well paying job, so i can retire earlier

Sadly, I am not. But I enjoy manual labor. I am leaning towards construction/electrics. But most likely just wait couple more years and retire with enough money to never work again

The irony is, my work is to train frontier llm's, so my own "child" killed my lifelong passion

Thanks!

What did you found for yourself?

What is your point? That coding was easy and nothing special? It wasn't. That programming changed forever? No one arguing. That all of us should enjoy new world order? Nah, this work isn't fun for me anymore. I will do something else for the living