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I'm sure the front-end programmers you work with really pay attention to the size of their JS build /sarcasm

Correction: Sites are javascript heavy because it is easy to accidentally create javascript-heavy sites, and the programmers who do this also do not care that they have done it.

lol, HN melodrama-purists downvoting

No, Excel is not relevant to the conversation. Excel is a standalone desktop application. No, Excel is not an example of a "no-code" webapp. Do you seriously need another adult to tell you these things?

I agree with this. I do wonder if low/no-code products will ever become good enough that you'd feel comfortable actually using one. I believe a part of this is having infrastructure/system that can describe itself in sufficient detail. Then the ability to modify itself with sufficient variety. Fundamentally I've seen ORMs/APIs/integrations that are more or less a crap shoot as to whether or not they're going to work, god forbid if a version of something is upgraded. The fallibility of it all will prevent this from happening.

Excel is spreadsheet application. It is not related to the parent post, which discusses networked CRUD application, with various integration points, DB, caching, redundant deployments, etc..

Oh, easy. That was the internet when it was mostly composed of enthusiasts or people interested in discovering things. That time has gone, and the internet now is mostly a tool for normies to reproduce their "real" life on the internet. Pictures, personas, various frivolities that early users of the internet were trying to get away from.

I think it's clear by your response that you didn't get it.

> There are still PHPBB forums which "look like dog shit" but host vibrant communities

There are small communities that predate modern web/Facebook, which is irrelevant. There is also craigslist, and its shitty design is remarked upon constantly. It's frequented by the elderly so falls outside the scope of discussion.

You're married to the idea that design standards haven't changed, or that the web as a platform hasn't become much more sophisticated over the last ~decade.

The point I made is more nuanced than that. I didn't say there is a large financial barrier to entry for the production of a modern website. The point is, Delicious, Digg, etc. would fizzle out today pretty quickly. Consumers have come to expect a certain refinement of design, usability, mobile-bullshit, etc. etc. that web companies of yore weren't exactly known for. What we're left with today is a bunch of crap that looks good but lacks novelty.

It's mostly due to this principle actually that Facebook usurped Myspace despite having far fewer features.

One exception to the rule lately is Roam Research, which looks like dog shit but is apparently popular.

Digg was massive right at the tail end of seeker-net. I myself watched nearly every episode of Diggnation. Great times.

Now with the idear of delicious coming back, your comment makes me consider all the good low-to-mid scale shit we've lost over time. In ~ 2008 it seems like there were just more fun/interesting sites around. Maybe I was just in an exploratory phase - late teens - and was discovering new things often. Or maybe the barrier to entry today, in terms of design/polish/product is weirdly high, and has pushed out the seeker-net in favor of normie-net.