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Edit: I'm not saying anything about this paper. I know nothing about this. Just a meta comment that, in really hard to get published in journals, there might be a bi-modality of papers. Really important and really wrong :)
The other issue is that we just can't see individual stars at cosmological distances except in incredibly rare cases. See for example [1] where they discovered a single star at redshift 1 (roughly 6 billion years ago). Basically, if the star gets lensed in just the right way, it can be hugely magnified. This is a strong contender for the coolest observation that I know about. Galaxies are hard to see at redshift 1, to get a single star is crazy.
On your second question, generally people think that galaxies formed "inside-out". I.e. the inner region forms first, then the outer region. See [2]. Stars almost never collide with things (except maybe at the very center of the galaxy, but still super rare there), so survival isn't really a function of position in the galaxy.
That said, this observation is in stripe 82 (a very famous section of the SDSS. They observed it to greater depth than the rest of their area and many other surveys have since also observed it) which I'm pretty sure is away from the galactic plane (so not straight toward the center).
[1] https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-4357/ab2888 [2] https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/multimedia/pia17554....
I don't see that in the article? They centered on galaxy clusters which contain huge amounts of dark matter. DM is needed to account for lensing. There isn't enough mass in the stuff we can see to account for the lensing signal.
> How is DM supposed to cool, anyway
It can't! The way that normal matter cools is by radiating (giving off light). Dark matter doesn't radiate (if it did, we would be able to see it). So, while normal matter cools and settles to the center of the gravity well, dark matter doesn't and (as you say) forms physically larger structures.
Skimming the paper it looks like it was the positions in Aug 2003
The reason the dominant form of matter changes is fairly simple. As the universe expands, the amount of matter doesn't change, so the matter density goes as 1/r^3. The amount or radiation goes as 1/r^4 as there is an extra loss of energy due to redshifting (E = hc/wavelength). Dark energy though is (we think) a constant, so as the universe expands, the amount of it stays constant.
But that does look like a small group/cluster.
Edit: Here is an example of strong lensing - see the very curved object just below the bottom bright galaxy https://viewer.legacysurvey.org/?ra=39.9717&dec=-1.5822&laye... This is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abell_370
These are paper summaries, written by people in the field, where you are probably the target audience. I don't read it myself, but give it a go!
My real issue is when this reporting is on things where the general public's opinion does matter. Things that the general public might vote on. Economics, medicine, etc. Having seen this type of reporting in a field that I do know something about (and a field where there is no real incentive to mislead, again MOND vs LCDM, who cares), I'm a lot more distrustful of science reporting in fields I don't know much about (and where there are incentives to mislead).
If they had published the article exactly as is, giving you all the excitement, but just added a single line somewhere saying "this is new work that is up against a large body of previous work that points in the opposite direction. Let's see what happens, but its a cool idea" I'd be totally fine with it.
I just think that it is very hard to understand the scientific consensus (average view of people who spend a lot of time thinking about this) when all you read are popular science articles that tend to focus on the exciting/new/possibly game changing edges. I'm just here letting people know what the consensus is.
(At least this is what I tend to find. This may just reflect my biases - US based, in the cosmology field.)
But just because something gets published doesn't mean it is right :) I think non-scientists don't know what "peer review" actually entails! First, as this was a MOND paper, it could well have been reviewed by someone who favours MOND. Second, even if the reviewer doesn't favour MOND, if the steps taken and the arguments given seem reasonable, I expect they would suggest it should be published.
I have no issue with the paper being published. It is important that theories have advocates who put forward the best argument for them. What I do take issue with is the skewed presentation in popular science. What sells is exciting and new, not slow and steady. And 99% of science is slow and steady.