aspencer8111
Joined 14 years ago
Joined 14 years ago
Top comment is someone else ripping it apart. Yep. Welcome to Hacker News.
Can we please try to spend a week not using the following terms:
A few things, a few issues, actually..., I agree but, or anything else that makes you feel superior by shitting on someone else
Take as much pride as you want. Just remember to, you know, ship something from time to time.
I would love to get all these "Performance First! Its so easy" engineers in a room for a week. Hell, give em three weeks and they still wouldn't have a single line of code written. But they would still be arguing about the best way to deal with their upcoming 1 million hits per second.
Rule #1 of any business: Sales cures all. You know what's really hard to sell? A product that hasn't even made it out of the damn door yet.
So what I would like to know is wtf everyone is doing in these apps to create this CRAZY amount of resource hogging they keep bitching about? Or are they rockin chomebooks? Seriously? I want to know where all of this nonsense is coming from?
I completed an online coding bootcamp about 5 years ago and got a job almost immediately afterwards. I've since become a Lead Dev for a local SaaS company, a mentor at that same school I graduated from, and a part time curriculum contributor.
This level of skepticism towards coding bootcamps is fair. I've seen some horror stories. But here is the thing: All failures involving more than 2 parties are usually the fault of both parties. Here is what I mean:
I'm currently mentoring about 5 students. Out of those 5, 4 are doing incredibly well. They are picking up the concepts, putting them into practice, and showing true growth. 1 of them is struggling hard. What is the difference? Well, in my opinion the difference is motivation. The 1 that is struggling did well his first few months, but when it got hard, he just wanted to start applying for jobs with what little he had learned. He didn't want to put in the work to finish his education. He was solely focused on the $$$ and not the thrill of solving problems with code.
So how could she decide if she will actually enjoy learning to code vs become someone that is only excited b/c of the money? Easy - try the free/cheap stuff first:
1. Codecademy.com 2. Codeschool.com 3. Lynda.com 4. Learn_____TheHardWay.com
The list goes on for a while. Tell her to sign up for one or two of the courses here and build something from start to finish. Nothing major. A todo list webapp, simple blog, or the like will do.
Then ask here: "Can you see yourself doing this 8 hours per day/5 days per week? If she can give you an honest 'yes', then offer her all the support you can give. If she hesitates, have her do more of the cheap/free stuff till it is clear. If it is a no, then it is a no.
Hope this helps. Sorry for the wall of text.
1. Dodged a bullet (booo on any company that would reject someone with this level of passion).
2. Created your own product (which you seem even more passionate about)
3. Did all the heavy lifting to make it interesting out of the gate (provided content).
Wishing you all the success!