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"Seeing HiCloud request while having HiCloud app enabled" -> and so ... ? The question "if I refuse all their services, do they still collect my data". No surprise your phone makes request if you are using their services.

"Third Party apps are not privacy respecting and sending data to Google" -> yes nothing new, we're not talking about the spyware you can install from the playstore yourself, you have a lot of choice there too indeed, we're talking about pre-installed apps.

The social score in China is even worse than in Black Mirror, it defines everything you can access from bank, education, job, health, transport , social relationships, etc.

It is not a legal score, it is a social score (both in theory and in practice)

I completely agree that it is stupid to send non-dangerous people to jail, but we should punish them with fines and possibly specific job restrictions decided on a per-case basis by a tribunal if there is a clear danger, but not by restricting their every aspect of their private, public, social and professional life.

I'm not sure to understand are you basically saying " it's okay to do human testing because we can save million of others " ?

The whole point of "civilized" countries is to guarantee some basic individual rights by not fall into this pure utilitarian vision. Otherwise you can justify all the most dystopian-dictatorish-nazish horrors you want.

If you or your children were dying because some scientists did non-consenting & non-needed test on them to make sure "we build the technology to save million others" you wouldn't find this fair.

Webrender hasn't shipped on Android yet did it ?

I agree, a Total Surveillance system than the most dystopian Sci-Fi movies could barely imagine, a Social Score to keep control over people act & thoughts and now non-consenting Human DNA Experiments to build a stronger race... But unlike with Hitler I'm afraid other countries will not fight it but actually embrace it because this is "progress" (no more diseases and no more terrorism what's not to like right ?)

They state in the license that :

"You may opt-out of many of these scenarios, but not all, as described in the product documentation."

So it seems that not everything can be disabled in the settings ?

Maybe in practice they're not collecting too much sensitive data, but they could just distribute the FLOSS binary with a "Do you want to send telemetry data to Microsoft -Yes ? -No ?" at 1st lunch and if we say no then we have the guarantee nothing will be ever sent to them.

As far as I now this is what is done in Atom and I find it more clear and honest than a special license where "you can opt out but we still send data anyway".

I'm sure there no necessarily evil intentions, but still there this feeling that for once Microsoft is doing a great & successful Open Source software, they must find a way to put their own terms on it and collect user data.

If Mozilla can't reach enough user now, why would they do with a fork of Blink ? It's not a web engine problem, it's just that Google is too powerful and Chrome is everywhere, so they decide.

And actually it is better for innovation not to use to Blink. WebRender is potentially much more performant than any other engine and it would never had existed if Mozilla were just aligning with Blink

I really don't find this insightful, just repeating what everyone thinks : "people don't care about privacy", "Chrome is successful because it is installed by default", etc. thx captain obvious

Like Reader Mode ?

You mean everyone uses Blink/V8 and everyone does research as forks and merge it to master if they have something interesting to commit ? I would see a few issues :

- The 1st problem I see is that open source is often meritocracy and so Google will always be deciding because there will be much more engineer from Google on the project than from other companies joining the project. And anyway Google has no interest to try to align with MS/Mozilla interests.

- The other problem I see is that you need some independence to make fundamemtal changes. WebRender would never exist if Mozilla tried to fork an existing engine. They wrote everything from scratch and now they are doing fundamental changes to Gecko to be able to merge Webrender in it. If they add to agree with Google, MS, and other companies they would still be arguing and trying to convince them, and Google would refuse because they think their solution is better (or more suited to their own personal needs) and Rust would not even exist