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For a moment I thought it was a version of goatse. Once burned...

The problem with non-reductive definitions such as the one you just gave there is that they don't have much information at all. What are those "lights" that are on when you say there is consciousness, apart from the presence of consciousness itself, the same thing that should be defined by that phrase? The presence of qualia is only possible, by definition, when there is already a consciousness that experiments them, but what is this? What is that something that you contrast with nothing, and how is it different from any other somethings like rocks, if at all? That just avoids defining at all.

Mine was a straight question you should be able to answer directly for any debate to go forward, not any "rhetorical move" nor any "approach" involving anything. Any rhetorical moves or approaches of mine, reductive or not, conceding or refuting, would come after your answer but couldn't come before it because your point needs this disambiguation.

So again: please, without resorting to tautology from which anything could be implied, define what consciousness is to you in a way you don't consider reductive, so we can clearly see what there would be to reduce at all.

I'm sorry, then what was that "more scientific" reason you gave for?

There's some Pynchon in these times too.

The body is the mind's interface with the world. Why couldn't a digital mind "feel sensations", subjective as they are, on its own interface with it? If it's assumed to not be a subject, then how could it be a mind at all?

For that to be reductive there had to be something to reduce. What would that be, without resorting to tautology?

Hello, fellow Dendron user. I haven't found good-enough alternatives either.

They're loud because silence is not a priority in their design and their fans run non-stop.

Yes. One might want to take care of the main stuff the usual way at least in part before passing on to the bidet, though, so as not to risk soiling. Source: Argentina, land of bidets.

That would be a reimplementation of the venerable HP 95LX palmtop.

Too bad its UI is ugly and its update procedures make me nervous. It needs a rewrite.

The message seems to be: sales is a soul-sucking job, a demoralizing exercise on psychopathic exploitation in which making people feel something (be it good or not) is the way into their wallets.

Looking forward to there being some derivative technology for mosquitoes.