antiSingularity

Sorry, what "moral high ground" did it ever have? SV is just a place for smart people to create interesting new toys, and has developed an incredibly predatory and monopolistic VC-funded business practice in the process. For some reason, its inhabitants have determined that this makes them morally superior to everyone else.

Does blaming the declining mental and physical state of previously healthy people on "lockdowns" also get vaguely political? My wife and I did not come near to breakdowns as we tried to care for our young family through the lockdowns and restrictions because of Covid itself, I can tell you that much.

In my opinion, blaming it on the pandemic is misleading, and hides the true cause of our problems. As I said, supply chains are disrupted because everyone was confined to their houses and completely changed their consumer and business spending habits. Referring to the title of this article, Intel NIC orders are not disrupted because all of the factory workers are dead of Covid. They are disrupted because supply and demand of all goods has radically changed, and our modern way of life depends on a very fragile balance of the flow of goods being maintained.

As I also pointed out, we will also never know how much good we actually did. You can tell me it's "obvious" that it did, but there's no evidence to back that up.

They also released vidoes of people literally dropping in the street "with Covid".

You've got that mixed up. The reason that supply chains are in disarray are because of the enormous disruption caused by Covid restrictions and lockdowns, not because people were literally dying of Covid on the job.

You could infer that if we hadn't acted the way we did, then what I described would have actually happened and things would be a lot worse. You could also infer that long-term and large-scale control of an airbourne respiratory virus through social means is ineffectual, and things would have been about the same anyway (from a death and disease standpoint).

A parent suffers from a genetic condition, which makes that an accurate description of their lives when symptoms are bad. Very sadly, their response to the AZ vaccine has made that a daily occurance for the past 6 months.

I too have a long term view of this whole situation, and based on what I see of the never-ending impositions on our every day lives that have removed all trace of many things that made life pleasant, easier, and civilized, have taken steps to ensure that my family do not suffer un-necessarily.

And how exactly does me getting vaccinated protect someone else? I understand that you will probably be outraged by me even asking this question, but I am for real. The official messaging here in the UK has recently removed the vague suggestion that being vaccinated protects others.

If you bring out the usual line that "being vaccinated stops you having such bad symptoms and thus passing it on to others", then surely that means I would have a higher chance of being asymptomatic if I do still catch Covid, and thus not knowing if I am putting others at risk? I suppose you might tell me that's why I need to also regularly test, but then why get vaccinated?

>I'm sorry for them - and I hope they recover - but they should be considered a hero.

I think they would find your gung-ho attitude deeply upsetting, especially when they are of an age where the personal protection offered by the vaccine is significantly more relevant than any supposed benefit to others.

How can I imagine such a thing? Being a parent makes you do superhuman things. It's just not an option to "not feel like getting out of bed" - for all I know, the extra motivation of needing to care for my young family made me get on with life even when I did feel as bad as your hypothetical well-rested person.

My immune system would definitely be better if I hadn't been confined to my house for months, and banned from seeing anyone for months after that.

And who gets to define my anecdote as "disinformation"? Surely you can't be saying that any story that runs counter to a particular given narrative must be false? (FWIW, it is completely true).

How do you know the disease would be worse? This particular relative is in mental anguish, as the kind of statements that you just made are the only available opinions on whether you should get the vaccine. After 6 months of feeling like death, they are questioning the decision.

ps. Are we ever going to re-set the Covid death count at the end of a year? At approx. 300k deaths per year in the US, Covid is the 3rd-biggest killer.

It happens, when the kids bring back a particularly nasty disease from nursery. We recently had RSV, and that lasted a month for me.

Just goes to show the validity of anecdotes thrown around anonymously online, right?