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Should probably have "(2008)" in the title

Enjoy being a slave to a machine, I guess?

Computers are tools that exist to serve humans. Humans should never be asked to become subservient to computers. Your suggestion is ludicrous and risible.

> I can't even think of any good faith motivation for doing this, other than to cover up the shortage and to keep the public pacified

Yes

I asked for evidence and you accuse me of "turning to emotions".

Honestly I don't know what to say. Good luck to you.

> It's pretty straightforward to give a modern agentic system will and desire

That is your will and desire. They are following your instructions. There is no "intelligence" there.

> I genuinely don't understand what people mean when they say cutting-edge AI is not generally intelligent

I don't really know where to go either. From my perspective you are too far down the rabbit hole and I don't think we can come to a meaningful shared understanding.

Good luck with that.

> We’re past the point where there’s any concrete intellectual capability that AIs can’t demonstrate

How about "will" and "desire"? These seem like things an actual intelligence would have.

> it’s clear to me that the remaining holdouts have religious objections at this point

From where I sit, it sure seems like claims of having achieved AGI are religious in nature.

- The very definition of AGI is not agreed upon, much less definitions of god

- Despite the burden of proof being on those claiming AGI, every request for proof is spurned with a "no u"

Interesting that you think there is no ideology involved in that kind of politics writ small.

"You only disagree with me because you are insecure"

This is not a convincing argument.

> I think there is a lot of overlap between politics and ideology

What is politics without ideology?

People can just choose to ignore questions they don't feel like answering for whatever reason.

> obviously

If it was obvious I don't think there would be disagreement.

Are you claiming they have AGI or are "close" to it?

I live in Japan and developed an allergy to cedar pollen after I came. I started sublingual immunotherapy (a pill of concentrated pollen you dissolve under your tongue) three years ago and now can make it through the pollen season symptom-free. Supposedly you even keep the immunity after stopping the medication, though I have not tested that yet.

Instagram makes it extremely frustrating without an account. Many times I have checked a small business's opening times on Google Maps only to arrive and find them closed... the only place they reliably post their times is on Instagram.

I gave up and got Instagram.