alienicecream

Intelligence is the ability to comprehend a state of affairs. The input and the output are secondary. What LLMs do is take the input and the output as primary and skip over the middle part, which is the important bit.

> Even if there's some exotic whatsit we have somehow not been able to detect thus far, something that lives outside of our existing scientific theories, that would simply require updating those theories, and then figuring out how to follow the same steps biological systems do.

Assuming the whatsit could fit into the materialistic/mechanistic framework. But that's not necessarily the case.

> You similarly have no direct evidence that there isn't a bottle A&W root bear on Europa, but our understanding of the history of humanity (and root beer and space travel) makes it very unlikely.

I didn't make a claim, I asked you how you can be so sure of your claim.

So? Lack of evidence is not proof positive of the contrary position. Even if you accept that there is no evidence, which is doubtful in itself since the fact that only humans seem to be able to think the way humans think could be considered evidence.

> It's always important to remember that humans aren't made of fundamentally different stuff;

How do you know this?

Yes, that's part of it.

That's pattern recognition, any dog can do that, you don't need an abused dog for that.

Like do they worry about the future and think about the past? No.

The guys who've blown up a billion dollars of tax payer money because rather than carefully design it to work the first time, they slap something together and let it fail to 'iterate'? It sounds like it's same guys working at both companies.

They fight over who gets to teach the asian and white kids.