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In Austin you can get anywhere from 100k to 160k. For instance I know for a fact that Amazon pays mobile devs in austin 160k. That said, this isn't san fran. you can own a house for a quarter of a san fran condo's bathroom. I was making more at my colorado job, but I feel like I have a lot more money here.

Yeahhhh. Heck just trying to do UI or integration tests are a pain. Not to mention the things I do to match the iOS animations my counter part got for free.

Okay then.

Why you leave?!

Some people love it. My dad is obsessed with it despite being from Texas. It's unfortunate that the responses and strong opinions took away from the points I was trying to make.

I will also say I've worked with mostly young people. IE an old guy was a manager in his mid 30s.

I will also note, as someone who has worked at dino companies. That is not a reflection of the engineers. It's how the day to day works. How painfully slow work is because 3 departments need to get their act together. I'm sorry you took that as me saying your friends are bad.

I love how crazy everyone got and how very far off the mark I went. Hah half of them are telling me, a power lifter who works out 4 days a week how I must hate people who are into sports and athletics. I should have been more explicit. Sounds like you have a great crew! it's just a pattern I've noticed. Having worked in 3 states. Culture is a real thing. There can be pockets. I think the culture is MUCH worse in Denver, than Broomfield, boulder, fort collins.

Yeah I'm not getting into that debate on an internet forum.

Sorry, no, that is not what I was saying at all. I also do not appreciate that logical leap you tried to impose.

Oh yes, some brought up the homeless. Not to get into it too much. Denver is freaking sketchy. Every few months a gang would kill someone outside my LoDo offices, or someone would show up looking for their ex armed and we would have a lock down. Homeless are rampant. Half real homeless, half young vagabond. It is usually ultra nice, then next block I'd feel the need to hide my watch. Austin, I bike to work every day. I walk around at night every day. Sure there are clusters, like under 35.. but I walk my dog 7 miles on weekends all through down town. Something I'd never ever do in Denver.

Denver has always been an ultra sketchy town, with a hard drug problem. Just look at the Gang statistics for Aurora. If anything Denver has been getting better, but the difference is 10 years ago you would avoid down town at all costs. Now you want to buy a run down house for 700k.

Though if you can find work in Boulder or Fort Collins, grab it. Denver, avoid.

I owned in Broomfield. It's the burbs. It .. well not for a 20 something single dude. Otherwise very nice.

Sure, gaming, tech interests, programing.

Feel free to move to Denver :-) Just remember you were warned. I only lived there about 25 years. Trust me I am not talking just coworkers. People in Texas are in general more friendly. You will notice these things if you move around like I have.

I've had no shortage of suiters. Granted I say that as a single dude, but I know a few who would date me. MANY more times that of Denver. Just because I know more people because everyone is so friendly. I mean there is a whole university to offset from the software engineers.

I still do Android. A lot better since we went to studio, but it's still far far from where it needs to be.