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I stand corrected- but expats in the countries they are referred to as such almost never have the option of permanent residence.
I've never heard a European immigrant referred to as an Expat in New York.
Here in China we are certianly not immigrants because it is made absolutely clear we are expected to eventually leave.
If anything the question is why are some people called Expats and some called Migrant Worker?
New difficulties here in Shenzhen buying the required markers of Chinese status (cars and houses) mean young Chinese are increasingly interested in startups and entrepreneurship as an alternative signaling method.
The letter of the law is never the actual implementation of the law here. Wholly foreign owned enterprises are tolerated up until there is a Chinese company in competition- then you get raided by the police in the early AM and find yourself on CCTV for “Tricking the Chinese People”. You’ll be allow an exit provided you sell your business for pennies on the dollar to your direct Chinese competitor. Yes, even if you speak, read and write Chinese, yes, even if your Chinese wife negotiated for you, yes even if you have a dozen Chinese lawyers and a contract. China as a system has zero interest in protecting the interest of foreigners- and you will always be such because they have no interest in immigration in any form.
The ONLY interest China has in foreign companies is for capital and as a vehicle to transfer IP. Once they have that- the company will be shown the door. Happens over and over again but Western companies persist in thinking they will be the exception.
I’ve lived in China for over a decade, I love it here, but without exception every foreigner I know here who has attempted to start a business was screwed in the end. Rich Chinese know this and most do everything they can to do business only with foreigners and earn their money overseas.
As a side note this does not really effect foreigners here since all of use pretty much use VPNs full time.
Would be a very long post, it depends in which cities, and which age groups (there is a huge cultural gap with far more risk-adverse older Chinese who grew up during the Cultural Revolution) and generalizations are always a bad idea.
That being said I’ll take a stab at it- usually Mainland Chinese are not so great at problem solving, but they are fantastic at making the solution better and cheaper (idea Iteration over Genesis). There’s the expression "别在孔子面前卖文章” roughly "Don't sell your essay in front of Confucius” akin to our "Don't try to teach your Grandma to suck eggs”. Coming up with something new- or imagining you can carries a certain air of arrogance to it. This does not let itself to encouraging creativity. While this attitude has obviously led to accusations of China just cloning products, it’s also made many Chinese to be enthusiastic proponents of Open Source (although not contributors for the above reasons). So new solutions and creative problem solving will likely be something they rely on foreigners and overseas educated Chinese to do for some time.
Software, UI/UX, marketing and outsourcing are still comparatively weak. Nearly everything is C++, Java and PHP with only a tiny sprinkling of other languages. Programmers are held in fairly low esteem and not terribly well paid.
Service at one point was a weak point but in the past two years has started to pull ahead of the West significantly. Aliexpress is the tip of the spear as far as Chinese direct sales posing a threat to Western businesses and it’s service is not even close to what you can expect from Taobao.
Probably the best way I’ve heard it described.
>You do have to read or speak Chinese to get it
This statement kind of bothers me. Mandarin is great- loads of fun to learn and speak. My problem is that I meet a lot of highly skilled professionals who don’t do more in China because knowledge of Chinese is often held up as an “obvious” prerequisite. I have met countless people who move here and waste a year with flashcards instead of making things because they are convinced that being bilingual will make them successful in China (hint: it won’t). Investing your time in doing things the Chinese can’t do very well will make you successful in China- and there is no shortage of bilingual Chinese.
You can get the Mediatek MT6260 (or just about anything else) without speaking Chinese, by using Google/Baidu/Bing Translate and relying on the spectacular patience of Chinese people for these things. Will it be a little embarrassing? Sure. Should you learn Chinese? Of course- but should you give up on doing things in the amazing development environment of China just because you don’t have a gift for languages? Certainly not.
That being said- Bunnie is the Man