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Comment · 8 years ago
Comment · 8 years ago
They are actually using Typescript, and this will lead to less friction wrt hiring devs, supporting all those platforms and integrating web components. Still I would have hoped that MS would be a little more forward thinking, and put some of their MSR tech in good use, to encourage the use of better languages. Just like how Facebook is pushing ReasonML.

I think that the C# focus of .NET is a major mistake holding the platform back, especially when we have languages like F#, Scala, Swift, ReasonML and Rust these days.

Comment · 8 years ago
Comment · 8 years ago
On Windows 10, they will target WinRT on UWP, with Fluent Design UI. Not Electron.
Comment · 8 years ago
Comment · 9 years ago
To me and many early investors of F# (loyal Windows developers), the current direction is the worst thing that happened to the language.

UWP is not just a nice to have, it's the backbone of client Windows development right now and going forward.

I used to be a huge F# advocate and all the people I converted to F# over the years have left, due to the lacking Windows support. And the VF# program manager siding with anti-UWP, anti-Windows, anti-MS detractors isn't helping the situation.

Comment · 9 years ago
Comment · 9 years ago
Comment · 9 years ago
I've been holding of targeting UWP, until proper F# support.

I have experience with plenty of languages and technologies, including C, C++, Rust, Scala, OCaml, Haskell, Clojure, Elm, Idris, WinForms, WPF, DirectX and dabbled with Silverlight. Migrating from WPF or Silverlight towards UWP shouldn't be a problem.

F# has been my favorite language since 2008, but the hostile anti-UWP, anti-Windows community, compounded with the lack of abstraction features such as ML functors, higher-kinded types, type-classes and terrible modern Windows client support, are driving me away from it.

UWP is pretty mature now and all modern default 1st party Windows apps and critical UI components such as start menu, action center and settings rely on it, and more is being migrated towards it all the time, there is no sign of UWP going away anytime soon.

Comment · 9 years ago
Nothing is being moved. UWP has been here since the dawn of Windows 10, which evolved from WinRT, going back to Windows 8, and is constantly being extended with new APIs.
Comment · 9 years ago
UWP is the primary Windows client application platform going forward.

https://np.reddit.com/r/csharp/comments/75mc1m/announcing_uw...

All this FUD and hostility from the F# community (including the Fable devs) towards UWP, or anything that's of interest to most Windows and C# developers making the switch, is why F# will never be popular.

And for most people who need to have their code running on anything else than Windows, F# and .NET wouldn't be their first choice anyway, given that there are plenty of better alternatives around, like Haskell, Scala, ReasonML, OCaml etc.

Comment · 9 years ago
Comment · 9 years ago
This is minor compared to all the major things VS isn't shipping for many years in a row now.
Comment · 9 years ago
It's misleading to pretend that it's a substitute for full Visual Studio.

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