Stromgren

For sure high end perfumes are high margin products. Can’t be a lot of cost in producing a $100 perfume.

But I also feel like it’s a bit besides the point. Seeing pallet after pallet of perfumes getting destroyed every month should be an indication that something is not right.

My dad worked at a logistics facility, the amount of perfume he took home was ridiculous - and you’d think that something like perfume would never go stale. It does from a brand perspective and they do everything they can to have it destroyed so it doesn’t end up being sold to prices that would hurt the perceptive value. Obviously he wasn’t allowed to take it either.

Of course there is. It’s not about the _amount_ of files or how many percent of them. I might have 1000 files that I’m fine having the LLM read and then some that it really shouldn’t. The problem here is plainly uploading your whole directory without prompting for permissions to read them - even if you explicitly set up permissions for read tools.

There’s a hell of a difference between a tool that asks my permission to read a file to make it part of a prompt and a tool that packages up my whole working directory and sends it to Google Cloud Storage.

The things you allow the LLM to read will obviously be sent as part of a prompt. You can control that though. Reads are tool calls and you can configure permissions for that or be asked every time the agent wants to read something.

This is straight up just uploading your whole working directory. Not as a LLM prompt, but to a Google Storage.

No I disagree. A harness reading a file is a tool call and it happens locally, which means that I can control it. I can configure that I need to permit any file reads and now I _should_ have control of what is sent. The difference between that and silently uploading my entire working directory in the background is miles apart IMO.

I understand that one should think carefully about how they work with a non-deterministic tool, but this if different completely. This is xAI just choosing to upload and store everyone’s directories - with full git history.

I have a last name that only my family holds in Denmark (which means me and my brother by now), yet it managed to tag me a Professional Football Player, MP for the Socialist Party and Founder of a Sleep Mattress Company.

I do like the visuals though.

Why _too_ late? Late, yes, but you’re implying that some line was crossed.

I run a SaaS business on the side of my job and have been for 15 years. There’s a million questions I’ve never had the time to dig into although the data was there. Retention cohorts, free to paid tier conversions, subscription upgrades/downgrades and so much more. Just this week, I decided to just let an agent have access through psql and go nuts, writing all analysis to markdown files. Reading through it, there’s a few things it misunderstood and as a result, some of the analysis was flawed, but all in all I’m honestly mindblown. It would have taken me months to write queries and even just coming up with frameworks of how to think about these metrics.

That’s how I’d want it to be honestly. LLMs are tools and I’d hope we’re going to keep the people using them responsible. Just like any other tools we use.

I’ve been involved in building a system that reads structured data from a special form of contracts from a specific industry. Prices, clauses, pick up, delivery, etc. A couple hundred datapoints per contract. We had many discussions around how to present and sell an imperfect system. The thing is, the potential customers are today transcribing the contracts manually and we quickly realized that people make a ton of mistakes doing that. It became obvious when we were working on assertion datasets ourself. It’s not a perfect system and you have to consider how you use the data (aggregating for price indexing for instance), but we’re actually doing better than what people are achieving when they have to transcribe data for hours a day.

Agreed. I’ve used their platform to train smaller, specialized models. Something I could have done in Codelab or some other tool, but their platform allows me to just upload a training set and as soon as it finishes I have a hosted model available at an endpoint. It obviously has some constraints compared to running the training yourself, but it also opens up the opportunity to way more people.

I saw the cost of the three downed planes somewhere else and thought the price was huge. Now I see that it’s comparable to “First Tomahawk salvo”.