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Ahh yes. Which is why the members of Hacker News were so into solidarity with the Yellow vesters. Ohh, wait its only when Chinese citizens protest that its good.

The State and Revolution - Lenin

I just have to object.

Early science throughout the world came about because of religion, not despite it. Early Muslim proto scientists like Ibn Sina and Ibn Khaldun explicitly did their science through religion and were heavily involved the religious politics of the day. This was also true also of early scientists in europe like Issac Newton.

Also that statement implicitly kinda carries the idea that europeans took over role of the "advancers of science" due to their tolerance and secularism. That was certainly not the case, european christianity in the 16th and 17th centuries was not in any way tolerant/moderate.

Similarly even if we agree that a decline occurred there are a myriad of other factors that could potentially cause a drop in scientific output such as the various consequences of war, the policies of the Ottoman empire, a lack of the urbanisation that occurred in China and Europe etc.

The US's coup in Chile was done precisely to protect US business interests. That's why large companies like Anaconda were so heavily involved in the coup. The thing that all those incidents share in common is that they all started when the nations involved began nationalising or restricting US companies.

A more modern example of this sort of behavior might be the original US sanctions on Venezuela in the 2000s.

The US has started wars to protect foreign investment. The history of Latin America comes to mind. Some examples would be Allende, the bay of pigs invasion and Nicaraguan Contras.

The fact that the US hasn't retaliated much in the tech industry probably just demonstrates that the industry wasn't firmly enough in bed with the government when China began blocking access to google and facebook.

So it's like the US.

The fact that people like the idea of revenge and getting back at their attackers? The fact that corruption is rarely a serious problem as long as a justice system functions relatively ok? Because some parts of America are chaotic hellholes?