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Global population collapse imminent.

Yeah Tesla is really polluting all the water and increasing CO2 emissions…

The UK, Australia, and Brazil have significantly less firearms (which makes gun control a million times easier), and are not constitutionally granted the right to bear them (which makes gun control unconstitutional). If you go ahead start a new country with no guns and implement strict gun control, sure, it would probably have less gun deaths, but that's irrelevant to the American policy debate. Criminals in America will have ridiculously easy access to guns for a long time, and further restrictions on ownership will only decrease law-abiding gun-ownership rates.

This is where I think you're wrong. The vast, vast majority of people killed by police are warranted. People routinely threaten officers' lives with guns, and get killed for it. It's unfortunate, but it happens. People aren't just getting shot by police for no reason regularly.

You are wrong in your expectation, I really just dream of being able to actually police crime. Which we do horribly.

More police are shot and killed every year than people who were accidentally shot by police. Imagine if they didn't approach every high-risk situation with guns drawn. There would be orders of magnitude more officers killed.

That is obviously true... but also a fairy tale hypothetical, and we are in the real world. So the question is, what's the solution, right now? Not 200 years ago.

Maybe there should be less de jure law then...

Yes, this sounds amazing. Enforce all the laws and rescind the bad ones! There are tons!

This is not an issue with bad policing, but bad policy.

I would prefer less people die, actually.

I completely agree. My point was that they should always be prepared for the worst.

Yes, firearms themselves present a clear and present danger by themselves. I'm sure once you make laws to control them, the firearms learn to stop being dangerous.

For successful policing*. Which everyone should be for.

edit: Every single thing you guys have replied with are policy/law debates, not enforcement debates. I disagree with many laws on the books today. I want the laws changed, not selective/arbitrary enforcement of them.

Police in the US should respond to the hilt because the likelihood of the suspect being armed is significantly higher than any other country...