Gregkion

And you know compare Eliza with what an LLM can do today?

Or do i miss the point you are trying to do?

Thats just absolutly not true.

A human being has general intelligence and needs A LOT of training and finetuning to become good in chess.

And there is a relevant and significant difference between the expectation of an AGI and an ASI system.

How much support do we as humans need to get rules right?

I'm an expert in my field, read my comments, my gramma is shit.

So we humans are not a general intelligence then?

And the stuff i'm using LLMs daily is just fake?

I see i see. I will see myself out of this weird discussion while I let an LLM continue doing a lot of interesting things.

An AGI doesn't stand for 'perfect intelligence' it stands for artificial general intelligence.

And no an AGI system doesn't need to play chess on a certain level to be disruptive to you and me and whole industries. It only needs to be as good as a person and cheaper.

Just because you define AGI as something it doesn't has to be,doesn't mean i need to touch grass.

This chess comparision is one of the most ignorant and stupid arguments i have heard after the parrot thing

It can play chess, it just can't play it on a master level.

The same with humans.

Your point/argument is very weird very non relatable.

AfD is a facist party and anti-democratic.

AfD fights against mechanism we have in place to protect the democracy.

Has nothing to do with my own righteousness. AfD could easily do things against all of this garbage and they don't.

And you want to indicate what with your smile?

No but a democracy should protect democracy.

AfD is concluding with russia, a country which poisned people on EU ground.

AfD also has plenty of real nazis doing nazi shit and AfD is not excluding them.

AfD is not democracy. AfD is antidemocracy even if it would get elected democratically.

There is a group of people in canada which takes care of QoL and another group of people taking care of external relationships and trade.

And normally this helps a country?

You design a product/machine 100% digital, you create a digital twin of it, you train a robot ml on this machine, you upload it to the robot who is sitting in the factory and it analyses the machine, reruns a simulaton on how to fix it and executes it.

I would say in 50 years max this is a solved problem. I estimate 30 years and would go down as early as 20 years.

They will probably just rebuild AlphaZero with autoresearch and iterate over it.

Chess is not an interesting target for AI Research and not for AGI. Your checkbook doesn't get balanced just beause Magnus Carlsen is doing it for you. You probably don't want him to balance your books i assume.

1. I have not been conditioned, i just understand what it means if you have a lot of compute available to you. Autoresearch becomes feasable, doing a million experiments becomes feasable

2. never? Thats just not true? But yes AI/compute is a significiant part, even with the Navier–Stokes topic: Tristan Buckmaster and Levent Alpoege said that AI helped them

3. I'm not training these bots and see big issues for society. The most basic ones: Our company spends now millions on AI Tokens and i wouldn't wanna go back. AI helps me to analyse things faster, debug things faster, write code faster etc. and it only gets better. But what does it mean if your devs are now 5-10% more expensive? A reduction of workforce and reduction in budget for consultans.

This is real impact and there are A LOT easier jobs out there on a computer than software development.

Normally technology starts with the most expensive stuff first, we automated away a lot of these things, with AI you start at the bottom. This has significant impact on a lot of normal people. Blender support just got so much better, this will affect a lot of basic blender developers.

And this will continue.

Not having jobs for people in a capatilstic world is not good for society if you dont have an answer for this.

Its a mix probably between a new potential and the progress.

Taking it seriuos and then figuring out its not that dangerious is probably a 1000 times better than the opposite.

And the last Ubuntu LTS patch had the most CVEs fixed i ever seen. After Snowden, you can assume a lot more of what i thought would be 'tin foil hat' might just have happened like a massive exploit scheme of CVEs.

Or things like Stuxnet.

You always had to be an expert somehow, now you can throw compute at it. Just imagine a USA, China, russian or israely hackergroup having their uncensored models running in secret datacenters with very basic prompts because they don't care.

It would be weird tbh if state actors/hackers aren't doing that yet which already shows us one big problem with ai:

AI is technology you have to use now and you have to invest. If you are not, someone else will break into your systems.

Im open to have a discussion on what your points are if you are familiary with ml in depth. I shared a bit from me.

And I didn't meant Sam Altman or Dario with the smartest people. I meant the professors who threw their tenure out and went back to the industry, top researchers, mathematitions, nobelarians.

And besides Altman and Daris, Demis, Fei-Fei Li, Lecun, Ilya Sutskever are very well known and are very smart.